NEXT Academy offers a 10-week Full-Stack Web Development bootcamp in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, and remote 8-week Front-End Web Development courses and 12-week Digital Marketing courses. NEXT Academy was founded by self-taught programmer and bootcamp graduate, Josh Teng. NEXT Academy partnered with the Malaysian government agency, Malaysian Global Innovation & Creative Centre (MaGIC) in 2014 - jointly officiated by U.S. President Obama, Prime Minister of Malaysia Najib Razak and Founding CEO Cheryl Yeoh who previously sold her company to Walmart Labs, to grow the tech startup ecosystem in Malaysia.
The primary goal of NEXT Academy is to equip passionate individuals to become entrepreneurs, marketers and developers — the key ingredients to get a startup running. Students learn in a hands-on style and are presented with a set of challenges to solve each day. By the end of the course, students will build a fully-functional web app.
Today, over 1,000 students have graduated from NEXT Academy and are employed with some of the biggest startups in the region including GrabTaxi, KFIT, Mindvalley, REV Asia, Business Insider, Says, and Uber. Some multinational corporations have also hired graduates from NEXT Academy as well. Ninety-nine percent (99%) of all graduates have either started their own startups or joined a company as a coder, marketer, or designer!
NEXT Academy is part of the 500 Startups' portfolio.
96 alumni reviews of NEXT Academy
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BBrian TanCEO & Co-Founder of Futurelab.my · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduated 2016
An eye opening experience
I had a great time at NEXT academy, had a good batch of fellow students with me. The course itself is tough and a lot of people do get discourage when they start to struggle. You do need to preserver and just keep at it and its your duty to find a mentor...
I had a great time at NEXT academy, had a good batch of fellow students with me. The course itself is tough and a lot of people do get discourage when they start to struggle. You do need to preserver and just keep at it and its your duty to find a mentor and force him/her to sit with you till you understand it.
A lot of the students do struggle at the start since they have not completed the pre-course materials. The amount of prework a student has done is directly related to how well they preform during class
For me the most valuable thing that I got out from NEXT academy was the network of rails developers since I am an startup founder and also the coders mindset which is the ability to learn how to find the information you need to code/ solve problems as well as thinking very granularly which does not come naturally to me since i used to be a strategy consultant which I am used to looking at the BIG picture.
Do I think the course is worth RM9000 - well it really depends on how seriously you wanna take it. If youre not willing to work your ass off then obviously it wont be worth it (that basically applies to everything in life). NEXT is a new company and they are still improving and I am sure that they are working very hard to ensure that they get the best mentors and they improve/customize their teaching styles & circullum for the students.
Overall3.0Curriculum3.0Job support3.0Instructors2.0Josh Teng of NEXT Academy
Founder/CEO
Sep 29, 2016
Hey Brian,
Thanks for sharing this and letting the world know who you are.
I'm sorry that your experience wasn't as great as Fung (for people who don't know Fung, Fung is one of past graduate from the first ever intake we had. He is amazing and working as a CTO for a well funded startup, GoGet).
The truth was that, December 2015 - April 2016 was a rough patch for us. We tried taking what worked when our student count was 10 per intake to your intake with more than 30 students.
We are still equally as obsessed with making sure we truly empower every single one of you as when we first started.
Now, we have made massive changes that made things drastically better.
Just some of the things we have done to improve- We have an industry veteran who has been in charge of the entire tech of $100 million company. He has also hired. He's now working with us on making sure our curriculum is great and industry ready.
- We've also employed a university professor just to mix in some academia to our practical minds
- Change the class set-up. 1 mentor is personally in charge to see his/her 10-12 students succeed. We no longer do 1 giant class of 30 students with 3 mentors. Though the ratio of mentor is the same, this has worked very well because mentors have ownership of their students and they don't have to roam a huge classroom leaving some other students behind
Outcome
We have gotten even more students in the past few months than ever before. We have 400 graduates now and even more companies are hiring from us.
CTOs of billion/million dollar companies hire from us personally and are continuously doing so.
Anyway, go and rock on with your startup. I'm always here to help if you ever wanted. You know how to reach me :) -
AAG.Graduate · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduated 2016
Feeling like a hero at the end
The journey experience moved exponentially upwards for me.
The first 2 weeks was tough. I had to scrap all my lousy expectation for notes and lectures. I had to change how I think. I hated that there is no black or white for my answers. I hated...
The journey experience moved exponentially upwards for me.
The first 2 weeks was tough. I had to scrap all my lousy expectation for notes and lectures. I had to change how I think. I hated that there is no black or white for my answers. I hated that everyone have a different answer than mine yet no one was wrong. I spent 3 hours trying to brainstrom my first answer to find that it didn't work. I wanted answers but my teachers asked me to think. THink think think! Thank god there are teachers who are willing to sit down with me even after class to walk through my code.
Looking back, that's the best thing that has happened to me. I thought I was one of the smartest person back where I was but I was humbled. Today, I would consider myself one of the most resourceful person in my crowd.
I loved my final week. We forgo our sleep trying to build our app. There were so much sense of achievement building everything from scratch after going through so much hard work in the past 8 weeks. What makes it sweeter was when we showcased our app, people came up to us and said good job, some people asked if we would want to bring our app to the next level as they know investors.
I think the only comment is:
- Give me more opportunity to mingle with investors and have more events to showcase my apps
Overall5.0Curriculum4.0Job supportN/AInstructors5.0Audrey Ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Hey AG!
I'm glad that despite facing something super new, unfamiliar and tough, you conquer this challenge! And it's awesome that it is an amazing experience for you!
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Recently we had an event where our graduates presented their startups to investors. There was an amazing response!
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if you want to further upskill yourself! -
JJonathan LiewGraduates · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduation year 2016
Tremendous employment opportunities
I am amazed how people can just spam negative reviews over here (of which I suspect multiple negative reviews were from the same person).
As a student graduated just recently (June 2016), I think I owe NEXT Academy a huge favor, which made me...I am amazed how people can just spam negative reviews over here (of which I suspect multiple negative reviews were from the same person).
As a student graduated just recently (June 2016), I think I owe NEXT Academy a huge favor, which made me feel obliged to leave a good remark over here.
The bootcamp was tremendous, where I learn the same curriculum from the Silicon Valley yet I was merely paying a pityful RM9000 as oppose to 12k USD. To me the best part of the bootcamp lies in its experiences, the long-lasting friendship that I have acquired during the 9 weeks was invaluable.
What I love to emphasize particularly in response to the haters out there is the career support that NEXT Academy have gotten the graduates. It's been only less than a month that I am consider an alumni, but I have already been through several sessions with employers from Air Asia, Digi, Goquo, Materialize, Flexiroam, 123RF and many more, all set up by NEXT Academy.The fact that NEXT Academy have been there for 2 years and still maintain an employment rate of 95% says a lot about their quality of teaching.
Right now, I am eaglely waiting for my job interview results. Wish me luck guys!Overall5.0Curriculum5.0Job support5.0Instructors4.0audrey ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Hey Jonathan!
I'm glad you enjoyed your time with us.
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind when your employer want to hire more talent from us. :) -
SsamRuby on Rails Developer · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduation year 2016
Review from students
I have zero programming experience before I joined the bootcamp and I manage to secure a job as a RoR developer after that.
What is good about NEXT Academy
- The mentor are very helpful and...
I have zero programming experience before I joined the bootcamp and I manage to secure a job as a RoR developer after that.
What is good about NEXT Academy
- The mentor are very helpful and they are willing to stay beyond their working hours to help us to solve problem.
- The friends we made in bootcamp are awesome. All of us come from different walks of life while sharing the same enthuasism of entrepreneurship. We learn from each other and at the same time, becoming the driving force of each other.
- I can pay full attention to coding as well as learning step by step according to the syllabus.
What NEXT Academy can improve?
- Code review : Review should be provided so that we can know how we can improve our code. (Otherwise we will just assume the code is fine as long as it is working.)
- Expectation setting : Students who expect lecture-based of teaching get very disappointed and can't adapt themselves well. Expectation settings/interview should be set so that students can know what to expect and what not to.
Overall5.0Curriculum4.0Job supportN/AInstructors5.0audrey ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Hey Sam,
I'm glad you enjoyed your time with us!
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if you know anyone who is looking into hiring talent from us. :)
Continue shining in Singapore! -
HHolloway2015 Winner of Master of Code Hackathon · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduation year 2015
Balance
Personally, I find learning in NEXT with new people around working together solving the foggy and challenging problems are much better than solving on our own via self-learn. I like the social interaction part where people from different background works...
Personally, I find learning in NEXT with new people around working together solving the foggy and challenging problems are much better than solving on our own via self-learn. I like the social interaction part where people from different background works together, like the business consultant, marketers, founders, artist and well, speaker alike, sharing their thought together. You don't get those when you're doing self-learn.
As a person who self-learnt iOS and been through the Bootcamp myself, coming from a firmware engineer to upgrade his/her skill to meet the market trends and demands, NEXT indeed did a good job providing pointer-learning training. I would not want a lecture type kind of course, neither wasting my time on Youtube videos for free classes.
On the silver lining, after reading the reviews below, I think what NEXT can do is providing a softer exit plan for those who aren't truly into software developer career. It can provide a friendly approach for those who realise that at best, they really can't code.
As to answer some furious claims below, if NEXT is not doing their job as described in other reviews, my batch couldn't have won 2015 Master of Code hackathon as champion when all of us are in week-4 out of 9 weeks, Left alone we won 2015 Global Master of Code. We aren't all coders but rather, individuals who are passionate about integrating each other strength and push each other to beyond the limits.
Overall4.0Curriculum5.0Job supportN/AInstructors3.0Audrey Ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Hey Holloway!
Always remember that you are amazing! And congrats with winning the 2015 Global Master of Code hackathon!
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if you know anyone who is looking into hiring talent from us. :)
As you venture into IoT, keep us update! Looking forward to see the prototype soon~~ -
LLeoFounder at WPStarters.com · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduated 2016
A Review by a student
Hi guys!
I'm from the November 2015 batch and graduated in January 2016. Before NextAcademy, I was an ecommerce store owner, bored Engineer and someone who bought too much WordPress themes and plugins. Due to the fact that WordPress plugins...
Hi guys!
I'm from the November 2015 batch and graduated in January 2016. Before NextAcademy, I was an ecommerce store owner, bored Engineer and someone who bought too much WordPress themes and plugins. Due to the fact that WordPress plugins were moving to subscription basis (it all started from WooCommerce), I spent about USD 22k on various WordPress products. And then our ringgit started plunging versus the dollar and plugins were suddenly really expensive.
So one day I spoke to a developer friend and she suggested that I take up coding. One thing led to another and I ended up speaking to Josh before joining the bootcamp.
So how's the bootcamp experience?
I'm glad I enrolled into the bootcamp. It was many long hours. Some days Petr and myself would camp in Starbucks trying to solve the challenge of the day and make our code better. But it was an invaluable experience overall.
What went well
- I could code after the bootcamp!
- I got a part time US job with US salary, that enabled me to focus on building my SaaS app and doing content marketing for traction
- The part time job would not be possible without my Github account with all the stuff we built in the bootcamp and more
- Friendship we made in the bootcamp is invaluable :D
- We had happening tutors! Thanks Jalen, Shin Yin, Estelle, Tom, Holloway and the rest.
- Camping overnight to work through code for our assessment was an experience by itself
- I'm now a Ruby, Rails, PHP and Laravel developer :) I also do quite ok with JS. Wouldn't be possible last year before the camp
- MaGIC's scholarship made it possible
- Been getting a number of job offers since the bootcamp as well
- Oh yea, let's not forget, Ping Pong
What could be better
- Coffee! - Perhaps some coffee daily would help as some challenges can be challenging
- Code Reviews - As some of the reviews have said, code reviews didn't really happen unless we asked our mentors for it. I guess I was persistent enough to bug our mentors on their opinion on my code, and many times they gave me ways to do things better, faster and more efficient.
- More help at the end - Towards the end of the bootcamp, it felt a bit rushed. Perhaps we were trying to do too much in too short a span of time. Also, with our juniors, the December batch in, our mentors were spending more time with them. Oh well, we suddenly realised that we did the same to the October batch! :D
- Reunion and gatherings! - I guess the one thing we're looking forward to are reunions and gatherings. Let's not just have batches coming in and going out, but perhaps ways for the various batches to get to know each other. Once every 6 months perhaps, Josh?
- Cert - I'm not sure, but I haven't gotten my cert yet :(
- Perhaps a job portal for grads would help those finding a job.
Should you do the bootcamp?
If you have a passion to do your own startup, work in one or just plain have a career change, Next Academy is a very viable place due to its pricing and vicinity to KL.
Do note that the bootcamp can involve long hours, losing your fitness (I gained 10kgs during the bootcamp =.=), missing out on friends and gaining panda-like eyes. It might frustrate you due to the difficult challenges and sometimes you're left alone, but hey, I guess that's how the working world is like.
Conclusion
The bootcamp has been a life changer experience for me. Yes, it could be better, but for RM 1k (under scholarship), it's a no brainer to consider.
p/s: Read my experience of the bootcamp here
https://www.wpstarters.com/web-development-bootcamp-in-malaysia/
Overall4.0Curriculum4.0Job support3.0Instructors5.0audrey ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Hey Leo!
The best part about this bootcamp is the friends you've made and the mentors who eventually became your friends too!
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if you know anyone who is looking into hiring talent from us. :)
And yes, reunions and gatherings! I love em tooooo! So come back soon! -
AAnonymousStudent · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduation year 2015
Next Academy: Sink or Swim
There has been extremely diverse opinions about Next; and reading them all, one would be inclined to think that Next is either extremely bad or extremely good but with lazy, disgruntled students dissing them. Which is it?...
There has been extremely diverse opinions about Next; and reading them all, one would be inclined to think that Next is either extremely bad or extremely good but with lazy, disgruntled students dissing them. Which is it?
Next Academy is like a school offering to teach its students how to swim. Some fishes, some dogs and some eagles sign up. Next takes their money and throws them into the pool. “Here you go, learn to swim!” And leaves them there to either sink or swim. Eventually the fishes swim the best, the dogs barely scrape by to the end of the pool and the eagles, realizing they’re going to drown, fly out of the water to safety.
The dogs and eagles are pissed at Next for taking their money and leaving them in the pool to drown. The fishes can’t understand why the other animals can’t swim and decided that those other animals must be either “stupid/lazy/stubborn/spoonfed, unwilling to learn independently”. (It’s ok, dogs, you’ll run faster and farther than any of them, and eagles, you’ll soar high!)
There are all kinds of learning styles and needs among people. Some people learn spatially - learn by seeing, some learn by listening, some by doing, some are interactive and thrives in a discussion environment etcetera and etcetera. To complicate things, people also have different kinds of intelligence; musical–rhythmic, visual-spatial, verbal-linguistic, logical–mathematical, bodily–kinesthetic and so on.
Self-taught coding could maybe, possibly be suited to people who primarily i) learn by reading ii) (perhaps) are more logical-mathematical. What about people whose natural sensory is to learn by listening, and whose primary intelligence is in bodily-kinesthetic? What about those with learning disability? Anyone can learn coding too but they will probably struggle a little more than those who do not realize their learning styles makes them more adaptable to self-taught coding.
And therein lies the problem with Next Academy. Next adopts a simplistic view to learning; either you work hard and succeed, or you don’t work hard and fail. Anyone who has a different opinion is shut out as ‘stupid/lazy/stubborn/unwilling to learn, insert other negative character trait’. This is an insult to those who do work hard and still can’t get results and frankly, an insult to the teaching profession.
Because here’s the other thing. Teaching is not spoonfeeding and spoonfeeding is not teaching. For Next to confuse teaching with spoonfeeding and vice versa is to show their lack of understanding of education pedagogy. There is a real methodology to teaching to ensure students grasp concepts and there is a methodology to asking questions to lead students to think of answers themselves.
To keep insisting on not ‘spoonfeeding’ when people are asking for ‘teaching’ is to show Next can’t tell the difference. And worse, they sing the propaganda that if you don’t try hard enough, you are just ‘stupid/lazy/stubborn/spoonfed, unwilling to learn independently’. Clearly this mantra has rubbed off on some of their graduates. Are the people at Next bad? No. They probably do want to help people but unfortunately they are fishes who don’t understand that there are different kinds of animals out there.
This makes everyone a loser at Next; The students who ‘lost’ RM9000 and got bitterly disappointed for not achieving their goals, and the ‘successful’ graduates who only reveal their narrow minds by joining the chorus of ‘stupid/lazy/stubborn/spoonfed, unwilling to learn independently’ accusations against critics that is propagated by Next.
For that alone, I would recommend potential students NOT join Next. Try another bootcamp that is more open-minded and caring towards its students, regardless of their capability.
But firstly, try out a few free online tutorials on YouTube, try a few paid online courses or get a developer friend to teach you an intro class. Figure out if you are a fish or otherwise. If you are a fish, go ahead and join a bootcamp. If you are not, don’t waste your money on a bootcamp. It’ll be a better investment to hire a developer who knows how to teach and can teach you. The most important thing is to understand your learning style and learn to code that way.
Overall2.0Curriculum2.0Job support1.0Instructors2.0Josh Teng of NEXT Academy
Founder/CEO
Sep 29, 2016
Hi,
I must say of all reviews, I actually found this very interesting. What this person said is very true and made me reflect a lot.
So here's my response:
Things we have done to improve- We have an industry veteran who has been in charge of the entire tech of $100 million company. He has also hired. He's now working with us on making sure our curriculum is great and industry ready.
- We've also employed a university professor just to mix in some academia to our practical minds
- Change the class set-up. 1 mentor is personally in charge to see his/her 10-12 students succeed. We no longer do 1 giant class of 30 students with 3 mentors. Though the ratio of mentor is the same, this has worked very well because mentors have ownership of their students and they don't have to roam a huge classroom leaving some other students behind
Outcome
We have gotten even more students in the past few months than ever before. We have 400 graduates now and even more companies are hiring from us.
CTOs of billion dollar companies hire from us personally and are continuously doing so. Companies like AirAsia, Digi, Maxis and many massive companies are doing so. If you are a graduate, I encourage you to respond to our events and come for these hiring events.
My Advice
To address the difference you highlighted in people (fish vs dogs vs birds). I agree with you that no one is the same. Our education philosophy is to encourage independent thinkers and what you experienced was the fine line of us making sure students attempt to solve the problem with the guidance of the mentor. It's a very fine line that can sometimes be difficult to balance. The most successful people in the world are the ones who are capable of being independent and solve problems with their own self-initiative. So while not everyone is like that, we want our students to be such and that is why we will always believe in how we do things.
That is not to say, we are close minded. We have just seen so much successes that we know it works. In fact, we encourage our students to be open minded on what animal they choose to be. Because we know, some times for things to change we must first change.
Finally
I've thoroughly absorbed your feedback and we are systemizing and setting higher education standards in making sure mentors do what's best for students.
Rest assured, we know we are not perfect and we are constantly improving. The past couple of months has been incredibly better. So thank you for voicing out.
If you ever wanted to talk about this or just share more, feel free to reach out to me at josh@nextacademy.com -
WWei JunJunior Web Developer, Mindvalley · Full Stack Web Development Course
NEXT Academy changed my life.
I was a salesperson stuck in a job I didn't want and always feeling limited by not being able to materialize my own ideas. I tried learning coding online and there is no doubt that it's a frustating experience for myself and many other...
I was a salesperson stuck in a job I didn't want and always feeling limited by not being able to materialize my own ideas. I tried learning coding online and there is no doubt that it's a frustating experience for myself and many other people.
Under a recommendation of a friend, I started looking at web development bootcamps. I was afraid that by being 1/3 to 1/4 of the price of bootcamps offered overseas, it won't be as good - but I was wrong.
The bootcamp gave me a new choice of career that I love, a fantastic place to learn a new set of skill, wonderful people to learn it with together and great support since day one. My batch, October 2015 even accomodated for students that learn at different rates.
This bootcamp will not be easy, because nothing worth going for is gonna be easy.
Professionals spend years of hardwork and dedication to be a good developer, asking for a 9 week course to put you at the same level is plainly unrealistic and egoistic. But what this camp can do is propel you to a level of competency at an unbelievable speed if you're willing to work hard, good enough to be a junior developer.
This camp is not for you if:
- You like to be spoon fed
- You think programming is cool but you are not truly interested in coding
- You don't like thinking about how to solve difficult problems and challenges
- You give up when things get hard
This camp is for you if:
- You love to be ahead of the curve
- You are willing to take things into your own hands
- You want to be a survivor and eventually a pro without someone constantly spoonfeeding you
- You love the feeling of cracking a problem with smart solutions
NEXT Academy will help you be that coder you've always wanted to be. All you need to do is work hard, stop whining and don't give up.
They do not spoon feed you, they do not teach you to rely on someone else, they promote independent learning. There will be no teacher in front of a chalkboard telling you what to write in your code.
The tech scene is a rapidly evolving environment, if you cannot cope with learning new things independently, you will never be a good developer anyway.
For me, the bootcamp was fun, challenging, exciting and spectacular. By learning with a group of people with common goals, I met a lot of brilliant people along the way and forged real friendships. Now I work as a developer and I couldn't be happier. I am confident that I can build something that I want to build now and I have no problems learning new things independently after the bootcamp.
At this price, this camp is a steal. If you're on the fence, just go for it. There will always be whiners, people who complain anonymously because they refuse to accept that education is not spoonfeeding. Time to own up to the challenge and make things happen for yourself.
Overall5.0Curriculum5.0Job support4.0Instructors5.0Audrey Ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Wei Jun!!
Thanks! I'm so glad that after your time with us, you've since became a software developer. Do you know that the person who hired you came to our place to scout for even more talent because your team has such good reviews about you?
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if your employer is looking into hiring more talent from us. :)
Let's gather everyone for a night out soon. :) -
ZzGraduate · Graduated 2016
Winners/Losers
You change yourself, NEXT gives you a helping hand.
Seeing all these bad reviews intrigued me to write this one, many of the bad reviews are left by people who are expecting to join this bootcamp - not work hard - and become a kickass coder....
You change yourself, NEXT gives you a helping hand.
Seeing all these bad reviews intrigued me to write this one, many of the bad reviews are left by people who are expecting to join this bootcamp - not work hard - and become a kickass coder. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way, if it did programming won't be in such demand.
Yes - HTML + CSS is taught in a day - JS is taught with material from Codecademy, but it's relevant. If NEXT extended the learning and taught extensively on all domains - you will be paying at least 2x the price, and slapping 3 more weeks on. HTML + CSS is easily improved upon if you are genuinely interested. (i'm now a frontend engineer)
I have the same thought about learning it myself at home, but I chose to go to NEXT for the peer pressure & focus. If you could've learned it by yourself at home you would've done it, stop bullshitting.
Job assistance - NEXT exposes graduates to a tons of job opportunities, and naturally, bad coders never get hired. It's all darwinian.
The lack of mentors is amazing. It separates the losers from the winners, losers will turn to mentors 24/7 to ask for solution; winners only turn to mentors when they are stuck for 2 hours. You're destined to drown, you should drown, but you shall not die if you want to win.
The connections you make at NEXT is incredibly helpful. My batchmates came from all walks of life, and some have already helped me in ways that I cannot appreciate enough.
To conclude, if you have the drive - join - work hard - win. It won't be easy, if it was you're probably gonna write a bad review.
Overall5.0Curriculum5.0Job supportN/AInstructors5.0audrey ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Hey!
I'm glad that despite facing something super new, unfamiliar and tough, you conquer this challenge! And it's awesome that it is an amazing experience for you!
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if you know anyone who is looking into hiring talent from us. :) -
WWei JiaRuby Developer, KFIT/ Co-Founder at NoNonsense Solutions · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduated 2015
An empowering, life changing opportunity
I'm a former Next Academy student of the Nov 2015 cohort. It's been more than a year since I graduated from Next Academy (formerly Code Division), and I'm still constantly grateful at the opportunity that this bootcamp gave me to venture into the world...
I'm a former Next Academy student of the Nov 2015 cohort. It's been more than a year since I graduated from Next Academy (formerly Code Division), and I'm still constantly grateful at the opportunity that this bootcamp gave me to venture into the world of tech that was quite far reaching and impossible to me before.
I've read all the comments and previous reviews. And I'd let to share my own experience. Like a lot of the reviewers, I too left my secure job in the Corporate Finance sector to pursue this course, and I too had zero coding experience. I wanted to pursue my passion in working in the tech startup scene but back then, tech courses with a focus on an entrepreneurial element were next to non-existent in KL. It wasn't until I found Next Academy and met Josh Teng (the Founder) that breaking into the tech scene from a non-technical background seemed even possible.
Those 9 weeks were some of the best 9 weeks of learning and empowerment that I've ever experienced. This is what Next Academy offers you:
1) The opportunity to immerse yourself in a coding environment with the support of passionate mentors who have been through it before, and have industry experience freelancing/ working with tech startups. Shoutout to Josh/You Jing/Rizal my ex-mentors who were so patient with me all this time.
2) Pair programming (something that you cannot do online or via coding courses). Being able to struggle through the learning process with multiple coursemates and mentors enables you to learn from the strong and guide the weaker. This also simulates an actual working environment where you have to learn how to work through code with your team members. It's an opportunity for peer knowledge sharing and trains you for the real world of working with people.
3) Exposure to more than just code. Students join Next Academy because they share a common life view and life goal of wanting to effect change through technology. It's from this shared purpose that we strive and grow together as an enlarged family in the community. Til today I still value the friendships that I've made with students from my batch, most of them are now developers, entrepreneurs, founders, dreamers that are doing great things.
Some of the previous reviews claimed that they were left behind, this is my advice to future students:
---a) Ask questions relentlessly (be it to other students or mentors), but also make sure that you are trying as hard as you can to solve it yourself first. Mentors won't know you're struggling unless you say something. From my batch experience, there were students that were struggling, but it amazed me how mentors took extra effort to sit by the students to guide the through.
---b) DO THE PREPWORK. The prepwork is there for a reason. This is a very challenging course, but what isn't difficult isn't a worthwhile venture. You have to venture in this course knowing that this isn't going to be easy. Students who tend to fall behind are those that don't do the prepwork.
---c) It will be a lot of self-learning, because that's what real life coding is like! If you join this course expecting to be spoon fed - this is not for you. This course offers you the tools to learn, the mentors to support and the environment to strive, but the key ingredient to the success of this course, is your determination.
As for students who are sad that they are unable to find opportunities in development after Next Academy: Firstly, much like universities, you cannot blame a university if you do not get a job after graduation. This course is an opportunity to grow and develop yourself towards that dream path, as well as the opportunity to be exposure to a close-knit tech community for your next step in life. Secondly, look towards what else you can do to build on top of this course and upskill in order to pursue your dream of becoming a developer/entrepreneur. After Next Academy I freelanced and co-founded a web dev studio to build many different web apps for 6 months before I landed my current role as a developer at a tech startup. And I thoroughly enjoyed the process.
Success is a many step process, and Next Academy for me, was the first stepping stone towards it.
Overall5.0Curriculum5.0Job support5.0Instructors5.0Audrey Ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 18, 2016
Hey Wei Jia!
Thanks for your kind words! It means so much to us.
I'm so glad that after your time with us, you've since became a software developer and you made us so proud because people were coming up to us saying that you are one of their best hires.
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if your employer is looking into hiring more talent from us. :)
And let's do coffee sometimes. We are not too far from each other now! -
YYuh Wen Foongfounder of SushiVid · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduated 2015
How hungry are you?
I am a very grateful graduate of the program from the February 2015 batch. I was just scrolling through the posts before this and want to add my two cents. I want to do this in the fairest way because yes, I do care about your RM10,000, probably more...
I am a very grateful graduate of the program from the February 2015 batch. I was just scrolling through the posts before this and want to add my two cents. I want to do this in the fairest way because yes, I do care about your RM10,000, probably more than Next Academy.
I urge you, as future students to evaluate yourself, your want and your willingness to sacrifice before enrolling to the program. Why? because it truly is hard work, it is frustrating and it is painful but when you get it, it is fulfilling, and very very enabling. If you want to join a class and be coddled, this is NOT the place for you. Most of us, at least my batchmates, actually go home and it's 1 hour for most of us back and forth Cyberjaya daily, watch YouTube videos, read up, stay back till 10pm to do this. I'm probably one of the average students. I never completed everything, but I embraced every new day and new challenge without looking back. Because it's another very intense day. For someone who is formally an investment banker and living the mundane life, this was a breath of fresh air. For once, I'm learning daily. Even the smallest details of the world of coding excite me. (Think, do you really really want to learn? Or you just don't know what to do with life and want to be cool?)
Few things to note:
1. There is never enough time to learn everything! It's a bootcamp! Before this, I didn't even know what is a database. The bootcamp enabled me to be independant, to find answers when I get stuck, to even know what to search for? (I believe this is the most important thing of all). You will not learn everything in 9 weeks but at least you know how to find your answers.
2. Prior to the bootcamp, I actually took me 6 months of blindly searching around the internet, trying to code random things on my own attempt, taking blind advice from random blogs and download a gazillion environments, crashing my own laptop a few times, and still leading no where, to be so grateful for the structure and syllabus set by Next Academy. I finally know what I'm learning and in sequence that I can connect the dots. I found also, that it was the only one in Southeast Asia at that point in time. Thank God I got in!
My batchmates, one of them is my co-founder today, one ended up in MindValley, one worked for Says.com and now in a dev house, one in Carnegie Mellon pursuing her tertiary education and one running a business in Penang. On the 6th week, we even participated in a hackathon in Singapore and came in 3rd - something I never ever ever ever thought I could ever do. That was huge for us, none of the can really really code then and now still kinda work in progress but life is a WIP after all.
I have worked in three different startups, in two investment banks, as an actress and a performing artist. I am passionate and hungry for a life with impact, I knew the past jobs I had isn't my final destination but I didn't have the conviction to start my own before this, because it was hard to find a tech co-founder and I didn't fully understand how it works. I also lost a lot of money paying freelancers to just put one line of code in my project because of my ignorance. I had a goal - to start my own company - Next Academy gave me the confidence to do it. Know your goals.
Overall4.0Curriculum4.0Job supportN/AInstructors5.0Audrey Ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Hey Yuh Wen!
Thanks for your kind words!
I'm glad you and Mak came together and start SushiVid: www.sushivid.com. Your startup journey has been so inspiring to us: being accepted in accelerator programs that are much coveted! We're all looking forward to see SushiVid grow and become a household name in SEA!
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if you are looking for more talent. :P -
JJayJunior Web Developer · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduated 2015
Learning to be Independent
I learnt so much in 9 weeks. I learnt so much more than just code. Before signing up for the NEXT Academy, I signed up for many Udemy courses and I've also tried Lynda. I find learning online to be pretty difficult for me. It was easy to follow the...
I learnt so much in 9 weeks. I learnt so much more than just code. Before signing up for the NEXT Academy, I signed up for many Udemy courses and I've also tried Lynda. I find learning online to be pretty difficult for me. It was easy to follow the step-by-step guides in these online courses but at the end of these courses I didn't feel like I understood anything. I spent a good 9 months trying to learn on my own but I just didn't feel I was learning fast enough. The biggest issue was that I didn't have anyone to ask questions immediately.
After much contemplation, I decided to take the plunge and joined NEXT Academy as a student. I really liked the way the curriculum is formatted. At first, the lack of teaching was intimidating for me, maybe cause I'm so used to the education system we are familiar with. But after 5/6 weeks in, I love that it wasn't lecture based. I realize the huge difference between bootcamps and learning the 'traditional' classroom manner.
I feel like I was taught to be independent in a supervised environment with mentors to guide me. Many of my peers expected a traditional classroom lecture but after going through this hands-on guided format, I do agree that it creates a more independent worker who is going to end up being better entrepreneurs. Maybe NEXT Academy should make hands-on learning more prominent on their site so that people don't come in with the wrong expectations.
I do wish that there were more mentors available but I did some research amongst all bootcamps and NEXT Academy does have one of the better mentor-student ratio. We had 1 mentor to every 10 student. Most other bootcamps seemed to be the same including the one I was comparing to in Hong Kong and San Francisco.
The bad reviews are a little unfair or perhaps my batch (July 2015) was a little different. But I can understand why. My biggest issue is that NEXT Academy should do a better job filtering out certain candidates. I applied to several other bootcamps and I had to be interviewed before I could enroll. I think the 'bootcamp' model will not suit individuals who wants to be spoon fed and are too stubborn to try a new way of learning.
The team at NEXT have been actively bringing employers to us on our graduation day. And recently they brought executives from big and small companies to meet and share with us.
All in all, at MYR9540, Next Academy is one of the more affordable bootcamps in the world. I'm very satisfied with the fact that I can confidently build things now.
Overall5.0Curriculum5.0Job support4.0Instructors5.0Audrey Ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 18, 2016
Hey Jay!
It was great having you with us and I'm super stoked to hear that you enjoyed your time with us!
Continue building and continue sharing your progress and work with us. We also feature our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if you ever thought about joining us to upskill once more!
And do drop by for coffee sometimes at our alumni space. We just moved to our new hideout in town. This new space is beautiful. :) -
SSenad HadrovicGraduation year 2016
Recommended!
I just graduated as part of March 2016 batch of NEXT Academy and I would recommend it to everybody who looks to jump-start their programming career. Nine weeks in NEXT were definitely a very intense experience as everyday you need to process a huge...
I just graduated as part of March 2016 batch of NEXT Academy and I would recommend it to everybody who looks to jump-start their programming career. Nine weeks in NEXT were definitely a very intense experience as everyday you need to process a huge amount of information so it might prove very challenging if this is not your learning style.
Luckily, mentors were very helpful and supportive throughout the entire course answering questions and holding break-out sessions. Social aspect of Academy was great too as meeting new friends, becoming part of community and networking is important.
On top of it, NEXT just started holding industry/career events (last one was with AirAsia CTO) which I am really glad as it helps new grads to land jobs.
Generally, I believe they could do a better job in selecting applicants to bring up overall quality of class. This will probably come naturally as applicant pool widens so they can afford to be more selective.
Overall, it is a great value for money and the best platform to get into coding in this part of the world.
Overall5.0Curriculum5.0Job support5.0Instructors5.0audrey ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Hey Senad,
I'm glad that you found your group of partners to startup with during your time with us.
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if you know anyone who is looking into hiring talent from us. :) -
JJeanFreelancer · Graduated 2015
Great course for serious learners
Setting aside three months to learn coding at NEXT Academy was one of the best decisions that I have made. Besides learning how to write code and build applications, I also gained a strong foundation for further self-learning. Building applications and...
Setting aside three months to learn coding at NEXT Academy was one of the best decisions that I have made. Besides learning how to write code and build applications, I also gained a strong foundation for further self-learning. Building applications and coding is not just about writing code; it's also about learning how to solve problems. The bootcamp was challenging and involved intense problem-solving exercises. It's one of the toughest things I've done but also one of the most rewarding. After the course, I began freelancing and have even been offered positions as CTO in startups. It definitely opened up a whole new career path for me.
Overall5.0Curriculum5.0Job support4.0Instructors5.0Audrey Ling of NEXT Academy
The Community Builder
Oct 19, 2016
Hey Jean,
That's an amazing story!
I'm glad that despite facing something super new, unfamiliar and tough, you conquer this challenge! And it's awesome that it is an amazing experience for you!
Code on, and share your progress, your stories, startups and your work with us. We are featuring our students' projects here: https://www.nextacademy.com/graduates-project-showcase/
We are now doubling our efforts to provide more exposure for all our students. This would mean: connecting graduates to employers, to potential partners and some times even to investors.
Do come back for our community events too! We have tech talks, entrepreneur talks and all.
Always remember that the value of the bootcamps do not stop even after your 9 weeks with us.
FYI, this year (2016) we have introduced iOS mobile development bootcamp and digital marketing bootcamp. Keep us in mind if you know anyone who is looking into hiring talent from us. :) -
AAnonymousGraduate · Graduated 2016
Too much 3rd party free resources...
I joined the December 2015 batch, and just like others from the same batch. We have to give out our 3 month of full commitment to this course where 90% of us there gave up their previous job and really hope can change their life by attending this course....
I joined the December 2015 batch, and just like others from the same batch. We have to give out our 3 month of full commitment to this course where 90% of us there gave up their previous job and really hope can change their life by attending this course. As Next Academy advertised, "No coding knowledge required", "Make your idea into a real working web application in 9 weeks!" and more.
Throughout the course, most of their teaching materials or the content of their online learning portal were gathered from other online 3rd party free resources like Codecademy.com and others. Most of the content we can get from those free online coding course, but the difference here are we pay for it rather than get it free. So, what is the point here? They do have mentors stationed during the class for assisting purposes, however I only can say that most of their mentors perhaps a good programmers, but not really a good tutor. Most of the students are like me, without any coding experience before this, but they are not really good at teaching us the basics. They required us to finish certain learning tasks within a day, but for most of us that cannot finish, they will not wait and just go to the next lesson another day. By doing this for a few weeks, some of us are left really behind and couldn't catch up with that.
On the other hand, they used to mention that they will provide us with many job opportunities and even a career day where we can meet with many company who wanted to hire web developers. But know what? More than 70% of us still hasn't got any web developers job after 3 months we graduate. What's wrong with their 99% of the graduates get to start their own startup or get job as coders. What I get from my batchmates are most of us just head back from where we came from and really feel bad of wasted our time here. But one thing, we make friends, that is the only good thing here but I guess I can make friend somewhere else and not paying 10,000 MYR for a place with Wi-Fi and Air-cond.
Then, they also did mention that they will provide continuous support for some period after we graduate from there to make sure we are ready for whatever coming up on coding. But you know what? Bullshit. Now when we chat them and ask about some technical question, they will either ignore you or just left you uncare. It is really a big difference from what they promise and told us.
There are so much more to talk about. But in conclusion, we are giving up alot of our life to get ourselves enrolled in the course and end up we didn't even have the sufficient skills to build our own web application or didn't even think that we are good enough to join development team or get a job. Finally, do think twice before applying it because there is no such thing as ZERO coding knowledge to WORLD CLASS Junior Developers in 9 weeks. I can get even a better coding course and much more support just paying Treehouse or Udemy for less than 50 USD.
Overall1.0Curriculum1.0Job support1.0Instructors1.0Josh Teng of NEXT Academy
Founder/CEO
Sep 29, 2016
Hi,
I'm sorry you feel this way.
I feel like I've answered the exact same review before. So I'm going to adapt some of my previous respond for this as well.
You say: Too Much Free Resources
There are bootcamps that actually completely open-sourced their curriculum so that everyone can use for free. The value of a bootcamp isn't in the originality of the curriculum but in the effectiveness in helping you learn. In fact, adapting the best content from allowed sources to conduct a class is the best way for us to help you learn.
There are experts whose jobs are to develop content and our job is to disseminate the knowledge to you. 30-40% of our curriculum are from such sources and remaining 60% are jointly develop with engineers from Twitter, Grab, Mindvalley, KFIT and more. :)
In summary, content is free. When people join bootcamps, the don't join for the content but for the mentorship and expedite learning, which are the most valuable parts given that programming isn't black or white. There's no one right way to solve problems in code and therefore having a personal mentor/coach is one of the most effective way to be great.
You say: Graduate Jobs
We have 2 dedicated person who is in charge of helping graduates get jobs now. In the past, we worked closely with students who indicated they wanted jobs. So we don't generally connect graduates who aren't looking for a programming job with employers looking for developers.
We have also done events where we invite employers to share and connect with alumni. Please come for these events if you are looking for jobs.
We also have the responsibility to ensure we recommend students who proved themselves and have great attitude to employers.
We will always do our part to make sure more students turn out great given our no interview policy unlike other bootcamps that probably filters out most people before they get in.
Having said that, December 2015 batch was probably the one batch we had many issues. We had also step up to ensure such things don't repeat.
Things we have done to improve- We have an industry veteran who has been in charge of the entire tech of $100 million company. He has also hired. He's now working with us on making sure our curriculum is great and industry ready.
- We've also employed a university professor just to mix in some academia to our practical minds
- Change the class set-up. 1 mentor is personally in charge to see his/her 10-12 students succeed. We no longer do 1 giant class of 30 students with 3 mentors. Though the ratio of mentor is the same, this has worked very well because mentors have ownership of their students and they don't have to roam a huge classroom leaving some other students behind
Outcome
We have gotten even more students in the past few months than ever before. We have 400 graduates now and even more companies are hiring from us.
CTOs of billion dollar companies hire from us personally and are continuously doing so. Companies like AirAsia, Digi, Maxis and many massive companies are doing so. If you are a graduate, I encourage you to respond to our events and come for these hiring events.
Finally
I've thoroughly absorbed your feedback and we are systemizing and setting higher education standards in making sure mentors do what's best for students.
Rest assured, we know we are not perfect and we are constantly improving. The past couple of months has been incredibly better. So thank you for voicing out.
If you ever wanted to talk about this or just share more, feel free to reach out to me at josh@nextacademy.com
To Those Looking to Learn to Code
Please do watch some youtube tutorials, try out some other online courses before you join us. Everywhere around the world, the most successful people takes initiatives on their own. We are here to teach you when you're ready and supercharge the learning speed. We have a whole blog post talking about how to learn to code and share some recommendation and resources you can use for free https://www.nextacademy.com/blog/how-to-learn-to-code-on-your-own/ :) -
AAnonymousGraduate · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduated 2016
It's a day dream / nightmare
I believe almost everyone who joined this bootcamp is due to the fact that NEXT advertised their bootcamp so aggressively saying that you could build a webapp in 9 weeks! Wow..how impressive is that and life changing!
Believe me, this will not...
I believe almost everyone who joined this bootcamp is due to the fact that NEXT advertised their bootcamp so aggressively saying that you could build a webapp in 9 weeks! Wow..how impressive is that and life changing!
Believe me, this will not be happening if you are paying RM10,000 to join this bootcamp. As I observed, most of the students here left their daily job, thinking of learning life changing new skill that could provide them a better career or future ( NEXT claimed that 95% graduates are employed after the bootcamp). However, the syllabus most of them you could get it from the Internet, and I could guarantee that they will ask you to go to a website, do their tutorials to learn and you will ask yourself "WTF?"
As for the mentors, most of them I would say they are helpful and trying to help us most of them time, however we are lacked of mentors as its like 3 mentors VS 20+ students, how would they possible to help? NEXT is responsible in this but not the mentors.
After almost the end of the course, I could see most of us are still not really good at the front end, we did confess to the mentors or even to their VP, all the answers we got is "front end is not so importantly". Hello, we are here to learn to be a full stack developer and we only have ONE day to learn HTML + CSS and ONE day to learn Javescript. I think you will be building a 1990s website after this bootcamp.
Lastly, don't ever expect that NEXT will care about your career or anything after you have graduated ! They do have "job opportunities" group chat in slack, and let me tell you my story. Josh, the FOUNDER of NEXT who is also going to held a CAREER TALK, posted a job opportunities in slack. I am so interested and PM him, once, twice, no reply. Ya, you get it right, he just ignored. So a founder that doesn't care about graduates, how would the others do?
I have a lot more to say but I think it's getting to long here. My advice would be, stay out of this bootcamp, make good use of your RM10,000 in other stuff or even other bootcamp ( I believe there's a better one out there).
Overall2.0Curriculum1.0Job support1.0Instructors3.0Josh Teng of NEXT Academy
Founder/CEO
Sep 29, 2016
Firstly, I'm sorry you felt this way.
This bothered me a lot because you have decided to personally attack me. As a result, I just spent my past hour looking for a student who messaged me whom which I failed to respond to. Perhaps it's a mistake on my end but I just don't find it. So, I'm sorry.
On top of that, I don't even have a dedicated fancy CEO office and I work with the rest of my staff in the same office. Many students have came up to me and talk to me. I'm not trying to justify if I really did miss replying you. But sometimes, in life, things like this happen. The more important question is what you should do about it. I'm not a big shot. I've had to hustle and just beg for people's attention. It's humbling and I absolutely appreciate the fact.
Now, let me address your issues.
I Don't Care about My Students?
Any attempt for me to justify will seem futile. No one will understand why I'm spending precious years of my life building NEXT Academy or replying your feedback at 4am in the morning.
So let me first try justifying how much I care by explaining how I make money. Firstly, if our program doesn't work, we wouldn't have had 400 students in just 2 years. In fact, we would have shut down and I would have lost my income source. So yes, I care deeply about my income since I don't have inheritance money.
And honestly, I had the chance to continue working in the U.S., making way more money than I am now.
I'm running NEXT Academy, because my single ambition is to see people like you build amazing companies just like those that came out of Silicon Valley from our hometown. I've spent some time in the U.S. and I know, from where I grew up, Malaysia, we are equally as brilliant. NEXT Academy is meant to empower more people to have the same opportunity.
You Can Actually Be Able to Build an App in 9 Weeks
We have been running for 2 years and have graduated 400 students thus far. Many of them are now even working at world class companies, building systems that transacts millions (hundreds) of dollar. You can walk into CTO offices of some of employers listed on our site to ask for their feedback on our graduates. Ask AirAsia, Digi, Maxis, KFIT, MindValley and more. So your statement may be a little strong.
On top of that, we do unfiltered public demo days. We are unafraid of inviting the public to watch our students showcase the app on the very last day of their class (they don't get a single extra day after 8 weeks 6 days to work on their app before they have to show it off to the public).
Now, I know I'm not really answering you yet and may have pissed you off even more.
I do admit that we have had some issues during the months of December 2015 - May 2016. Our bootcamp class size rapidly grew and we tried to use the same model that worked for 10 people in a class to a bigger class size. We have since fixed that by actually breaking down each intake to clearly divided groups of 10-12 students with 1 dedicated mentor. Anyway long story short, the new batches of students are epic. And please email me at josh@nextacademy.com to see if we can help you.
Frontend is not important?
We have briefed our mentor to be more careful about what they say. I'm not sure which mentor said this but I don't think he/she meant frontend is not important. He/she probably meant, there are other priorities right now. You don't spend just 1 day. Our students are constantly working on their HTML/CSS/JS skills as they are building their apps from week 5 throughs week 9. We don't block out an entire just to teach you frontend. You learn as you build. It makes things more palatable and fun.
Our past students have built some of the most beautiful products. In fact, they showcase it publicly during their last day of class to the public. (if you are a member of the public and happen to be in KL, feel free to come and join one of our events to believe it for yourself. This link https://www.nextacademy.com/community/ has all our events and you may subscribe to the newsletter to get updates)
Syllabus are online
There are bootcamps that actually completely open-sourced their curriculum so that everyone can use. The value of a bootcamp isn't in the originality of the curriculum but in the effectiveness in helping you learn. In fact, adapting the best content from allowed sources to conduct a class is the best way for us to help you learn. There are experts whose jobs are to develop content and our job is to disseminate the knowledge to you. 30-40% of our curriculum are from such sources and remaining 60% are jointly develop with engineers from Twitter, Grab, Mindvalley, KFIT and more. :)
3 mentors for 20+ students
That's one teacher for every 7 - 10 students. That's actually pretty generous and we know this ratio works very well. No for-profit school or education institution has such insanely unprofitable ratios.
We do however know that some student complained that they didn't get enough attention from mentors. So instead of having 20 students in 1 room with 2 mentors. We split students into groups of 10-12 into one space and have a dedicated mentor. For some reason, this has worked extremely well to make sure everyone, even the quieter students get great amounts of guidance and help.
Anyway, I'm sorry you felt that way and had to unleash in this manner.
Feel free to email me at josh@nextacademy.com if you are keen to see how we can work out things and maybe even help you. -
AAnonymous
Not quite as advertised..
...would be how I would describe my Next Academy experience in a nutshell. Nine weeks from zero to world-class junior full stack developer, with alumni/job networking support and personalized mentor attention? As per mentioned, not quite.
The......would be how I would describe my Next Academy experience in a nutshell. Nine weeks from zero to world-class junior full stack developer, with alumni/job networking support and personalized mentor attention? As per mentioned, not quite.
The syllabus is alright enough: after a gruelling initial 2 weeks of computer science/Ruby immersion, there was (barely) a week of front-end learning, followed by a week with the Sinatra framework before scaling up to Rails. The disappointing aspect was the utter lack of attention paid to Javascript. The ONLY syllabus dedicated to it was a one day lesson, complete the (free) JS track on Codeacademy. Bearing in mind that since most folks shelled out about RM10k for this bootcamp, using a 3rd party free resource as part of the syllabus was downright infuriating. We also learned very little about the git workflow and nothing about Agile development practices, which I realized were very essential to a coder's skillset post-graduation.I cannot fault the mentors themselves, as many of them do try their best and some do look out for the well being of their students. It is worth noting however that almost the entirety of their staff are former graduates of the program and not all possess industry experience. That may or may not be a game changer for you.
The execution of the bootcamp itself was where they really fell through. Students would be told that certain elements of the program would be done one way only to be notified otherwise at the last moment. My batch had 2 assessments mid-camp where we were told that those who did not make the grade would be forced to defer to the following intake. Yet everybody made it through including those who barely touched their assessment, and this led to the detriment of everybody as a whole during the final group project.
To describe their claim of personalized mentoring would be a stretch. My batch had 20-25 students and combined with the other intake of roughly that number meant that Next only had 3-4 mentors max available per batch. As one would expect, this resulted in many students floundering about wondering how to begin their daily work. Breakout sessions, where mentors would teach the basic concepts of the day on a whiteboard/projector traditional-style were very, very rare. To top if off, there were no recaps at the end of the day to determine if what we did was on the right path or not. This resulted in a snowballing effect where some students would get progressively left further and further behind as the course progressed.I have no idea where they get their 95% post-graduate employment figures from, as none of the Next staff had bothered to contact me or my peers about our status save for invitations to their events. Also, bear in mind that although a few former graduates have gotten into the bigwigs of the Malaysian startup scene (Kfit, Mindvalley, etc), the employment scene has changed since and most of the bigwigs do not consider junior developers anymore, barring a few exceptions.
To sum it all up, I would definitely say that the bootcamp was not worth the RM10k I spent on it. The Next marketing team does a superb job of selling themselves but cares little for its students once the money changes hands. If you are considering Next, please do yourself a favor and reach out to former graduates not currently under Next's payroll and get another honest opinion.
Overall2.0Curriculum1.0Job support1.0Instructors3.0Josh Teng of NEXT Academy
Founder/CEO
Sep 29, 2016
Hi,
I'm sorry you felt this way. Let me address your feedback.
You said: "The disappointing aspect was the utter lack of attention paid to Javascript."
The challenge of a short bootcamp like every other bootcamp is what should we prioritize in teaching. Software development in general is a field that is ever evolving and for anyone working in this field, continuous learning is actually fun and extremely important.
Our curriculum is clearly listed on our website https://www.nextacademy.com/courses/web-development-bootcamp. And the way we designed our curriculum is based on the current needs of the industry at places where our graduates are looking for job.
Most importantly though, people, especially people new to learning to code should understand that programming isn't so much about a particular language than it is about the fundamentals. I code in 4 different programming languages these days and I never learned any one of them from my university degree.
What is more important for people to know when learning to code is that, you don't just learn a language, you learn how to solve problems and build fundamentals that can be carried over to any programming languages.
You said: "Bearing in mind that since most folks shelled out about RM10k for this bootcamp, using a 3rd party free resource as part of the syllabus was downright infuriating."
There are bootcamps that actually completely open-sourced their curriculum so that everyone can use. The value of a bootcamp isn't in the originality of the curriculum but in the effectiveness in helping you learn, the mentors and the personalize feedback on the code you write.
In fact, adapting the best content from allowed sources to conduct a class is the best way for us to help you learn. There are experts whose jobs are to develop content and our job is to disseminate the knowledge to you. 30-40% of our curriculum are from such sources and remaining 60% are jointly develop with engineers from Twitter, Grab, Mindvalley, KFIT and more. :)
About MentorIn the past half a year,- We have hired an industry veteran who have had experience hiring and building a production system for a $100million dollar company. He works as a mentor and curriculum builder.
- We have also hired a university professor to bring in a blend of industry practicality and education pedagogy.
- Hiring from our graduates is actually great. We get to choose the top 1% from a pool of 400 students. Our mistake in the past was not having a good enough mentorship training program. We do now and have been doing it for awhile. They will always be working together with a more senior mentor.
You said: "Execution of the bootcamp", caused confusion
I was deeply frustrated and disappointed when this happened as well. When I discovered the problem, I immediately sat down with my program coordinator and VP of program. There were some confusion between the 2 of them. But the bigger issue was one of them was going through a rough patch in his/her marriage (that resulted in a separation). Unfortunately, that situation also affected his/her work. [I'm intentionally vague on the gender to protect their identities]
As the CEO, I was frustrated. But when I figured this out, I'm just reminded that everyone is going through their own battles. For me, it was a good lesson to always seek out the deeper truth. And I'm sorry this happened to you. It shouldn't have. I take personal responsibility for this.
You said: "I have no idea where they get their 95% post-graduate employment figures from"
The events we do are to help you get jobs. We work closely with our graduates that indicated they are looking for jobs when they joined us. We also have a fiduciary duty to ensure we recommend the right students to the right jobs.
The 95% was from surveying people who are truly looking for jobs. Unlike bootcamps in the U.S., many of our graduates are looking to start their own startup instead of working as a software developer.
We have since change the way we get our figures. We are 3rd party audited.
You said: "most of the bigwigs (companies) do not consider junior developers anymore, barring a few exceptions"
Actually they do. Feel free to speak with any of our employers that recently hired our graduates. They are the CTOs of AirAsia, Digi, MindValley, KFIT etc+.
You said: "If you are considering Next, please do yourself a favor and reach out to former graduates not currently under Next's payroll and get another honest opinion."
Yes please do. Every member of the public is invited to the public demo days we do on the last day of every cohort. Every single student showcases their app to the public. We don't filter it and we are unafraid to do so because of the amazing things they accomplish in 9 weeks. These demo day is held exactly on the last day of their class so every single one of them are still around and we have no time to sugarcoat things. And more importantly, we don't make enough money to pay everyone to say good things. So you can be rest assured that you are getting honest opinions when you come for our demo day. :)
If any of you are interested, here's a link to all our events. https://www.nextacademy.com/community/ On top of that, feel free to subscribe to the email updates on when the next public raw, unfiltered demo day will be.
To the person who left this feedback, feel free to reach out to me personally at josh@nextacademy.com if there are more things you want to talk about. It would also help me as CEO when I get to here directly from you and have a conversation. -
AAnonymousGraduate · Full Stack Web Development Course
Wasted my time and money
MYR9,540 for 9 weeks course.
I wouldn't pay that much to learn to code, i could go to Udemy/Treehouse/Lynda.com and provide myself a space i.e my room/office to learn....
MYR9,540 for 9 weeks course.
I wouldn't pay that much to learn to code, i could go to Udemy/Treehouse/Lynda.com and provide myself a space i.e my room/office to learn. I think i have better Internet compared to them.
The learning material is all available online. Like, Hey! Here's our material that we modified and called our own. The lessons that are available online are more clear instructed compared to theirs.
By paying Rm10k to learn get provided a space and internet.
TL;DR version: Learn somewhere else. i.e: Treehouse/Udemy/Lynda.com. Don't waste your time waking up early. Learn in your own BatCave(room).Overall2.0Curriculum2.0Job support1.0Instructors1.0Josh Teng of NEXT Academy
Founder/CEO
Sep 29, 2016
I'm sorry you felt this way.
Content Originality
Yes we did adapt certain content from online sources. In fact, most of the time it's actually great to use highly effective content that was developed by others to allow teachers like us to focus on the teaching.
However, only 30-40% of our curriculum are adapted and modified from a book called Learn to Program by Chris Pine. That book has some of the best challenges to help new coders become truly good coders.
Joining a bootcamp vs learning online
Bootcamps aren't meant for everybody. The value of a bootcamp is having instructors with industry experience guide you along the way and give you feedback along the way. The thing about learning to code is that, nothing is binary. Meaning, there is no right answer. Whenever you learn things from a static source, you are not getting feedback on your work. Coding isn't objective, it's subjective. There are many ways to solve a problem but there are also best practices.
Conclusion
We have recently hired some of the best mentors with ton of industry experience. Please reach out to me at josh@nextacademy.com so that we can chat and see how we can help you! -
AAnonymousGraduate · Full Stack Web Development Course · Graduated 2016
Waste of Time and Money
U pay almost Rm10,000 for 9 weeks, with 25+ other candidates that enrolled.
Problems:most of the time only 2 mentors around.
mentors are doing their own work.
some of the mentors are fresh graduates from Next...
U pay almost Rm10,000 for 9 weeks, with 25+ other candidates that enrolled.
Problems:most of the time only 2 mentors around.
mentors are doing their own work.
some of the mentors are fresh graduates from Next Academy.
Guides given are not clear, no lectures given.
In my opinion, it focus too much on profit making.
Overall1.0Curriculum1.0Job support1.0Instructors1.0Josh Teng of NEXT Academy
Founder/CEO
Sep 29, 2016
Hi,
I'm Josh, the founder. I'm sorry you felt this way. Let me address some of the matters.
1. Having only 2 mentors
It is our policy to have 1 mentor to 10-12 students at most. Having a mentor per 10-12 student is an incredible instructor-student ratio that you will never find at any other form of educational institution that actually makes real dough. We, have also found from the past success of graduates who worked at companies like AirAsia, Grab, KFIT that they managed to excel under such circumstance.
2. Inexperience mentors
This is the real problem I want to address. I'm not sure which intake you were in. We have since changed things around. In the past, we had a very short notice period for mentors looking to quit NEXT Academy. During those rare moments, I stay up late nights, panicking on making sure we have sufficient mentors for you guys.
While manpower shortage will always be an issue in the tech industry, we have finally managed to develop a strict policy that works.
We have some of the greatest mentors who have built apps that handle millions of dollar in transactions. We also have junior mentors that we hire from our graduate pool.
Most people think that hiring from our graduate pool is a bad idea. But I do it intentionally. We have the luxury of selecting the top 1% from our graduate pool of hundreds of graduates to be trained up to be great teachers and coders. Coupled with the fact that we have seen how capable they are in a 9 weeks full time intensive learning environment. This allows us to hire the cream of the crop.
We, now, have an mentor in training program where these past graduates will shadow a senior experienced instructor and at the same time spend 50% of their other time coding production systems as a contract staff with our partnered tech companies.
3. Our fault for occasionally having 1 or 2 extra student in each batch and how we fixed it
And occasionally, some applicants from past batches suffer from emergencies that would require them to join the following batch and as a result we end up having 1 or 2 student extra. This is not an excuse but emergencies sometimes happen at unfortunate time after we filled up our class and because we empathize with those who suffered emergencies, we allow them to join the following batch.
We have, however, came up with a very clear student terms and agreement to mitigate such unforeseen circumstances. Every deferment is subject to availability. We did this to be fair with every single student who joined us.
Conclusion
I know this reply to your feedback will probably do you very little good. That is why, I would love if you would send me an email at josh@nextacademy.com to see what we can do to help you now. -
AAnonymousGraduate · Graduated 2015
Feedback from Graduate
It's a bad choice to choose Next academy. You might be thinking that taking this boot camp will change your life but you learn shit while paying 10000 ringgit.
Students come to class everyday just to finish their exercise posted in learning...
It's a bad choice to choose Next academy. You might be thinking that taking this boot camp will change your life but you learn shit while paying 10000 ringgit.
Students come to class everyday just to finish their exercise posted in learning portal. Imagine learning to swim but is left in the pool and your instructor just look at you struggling to swim. Yup. That's the kind of treatment you get in the bootcamp.
Overall1.0Curriculum1.0Job support1.0Instructors1.0Josh Teng of NEXT Academy
Founder/CEO
Sep 29, 2016
I'm sorry you felt this way.
I believe your complain is due to the way we structured our classes. We have fixed a lot of the issues around class set-up since a couple months back.
In the first half of 2016, we had 30-40 students in one class with 3-4 mentors/instructors roaming around the room.
And although, we had a strict 1 mentor to 10-12 students ratio, the real struggle with a class size of 30-40 students, mentors were left roaming around a big room leaving some students feeling neglected. I apologize that you were in the unfortunate cohort to have experienced this.
We have since tweaked our class set-up to physically divide the class to groups of 10-12 students each (with 1 mentor assigned to each group) during lesson time. This allowed us to ensure every single student are sufficiently attended to and for our instructors to know every single student extremely well.
Addressing your issue about being left in the pool and not getting any help, our policy is to ensure that instructors challenge students by allowing them to think for themselves before assisting them to help them become independent problem solvers that can be great software engineers and even entrepreneurs. This is, however, not an excuse for our instructors to leave you alone.
We have been refining our process and model over the past few months. And we've made much progress since. I wish I knew who you were and would love to be able to see how we can help you.
We have had many successful graduates. They work for great companies such as AirAsia, Maxis, Digi and even well funded startups such as Grab, KFIT that are backed by world known VCs like Sequoia Capital that has extremely high standards.
I'm sorry we couldn't do the same for you. I wish I knew who you were and that you approached me personally during the bootcamp. It isn't too late now, if you are still keen, I would love to see how we can help you. You can email me at josh@nextacademy.com
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