DESIGNATION is a full-time, immersive design course with the primary goal to turn you into a hireable candidate for innovative and tech-focused companies. DESIGNATION is made up of mandatory evening class sessions and a full-time immersion environment. Throughout the 12 weeks in the DESIGNATION labs, students are treated to guest speakers, sponsored workshops, and lab sessions. While there is no formal grading, students are asked to create portfolio deliverables and to post about design process. While applicants aren't required to have experience in design, top applicants will have some technical experience and should be prepared to commit at least 70 hours/week to the program. DESIGNATION is looking for highly motivated individuals who demonstrate maturity, persistency in problem-solving, and show a genuine interest in design. On the last day of the course, students participate in Portfolio Night, where they will showcase their work to DESIGNATION's Hiring Partners who are looking for candidates.
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They say they screen applicants but they don't. You WILL work with people who shouldn't be in the program. Those people will be dead weight dragging down your experience (and your portfolio). Taking that into consideration and coupled wtih a lack of job placement, and incredibly short deadlines which negatively affect your ability to produce great work. I'd save the money and try another experience.
TL;DR: DESIGNATION can help you land a design job, but nothing's handed to you. The people that do well are the ones that have some work experience, take it seriously, trust the process, and work their asses off. The program's hard by design and constantly testing/iterating to be better.
I worked with DESIGNATION both as a student and on staff (as a TA), and I'm super happy with the investment. I gained an awesome UI/UX job, solid portfolio, invaluable career advice, connections to companies, and access to a huge network of friends and other designers across the country. I learned. a. ton.
Mike Joosse and his portfolio / career prep
Client phase: actual client projects with committed Creative Directors (GA doesn't do client projects)
Immersion phase with our intsructor Andrew Twigg from Carnegie Mellon - he was awesome
The move away from teaching breadth in both UI and UX towards a depth in either UI or UX. Good for some folks (specialists), bad for others (generalists…)
It’s a for-profit program, so it’s not the most selective. Your teammates might be fairly experienced and committed, or they might not…
- The program also seems a lot more difficult for recent grads vs. career shifters. It helps to have a few years work experience when going in
Overall, I'd choose DESIGNATION again. Do it! But only if you're serious.
If you have no design experience, but want to make a career change into it, you should definitely consider DESIGNATION because I was on the same boat as you. I came into the program with a background in Biomedical Engineering, while doing wedding videography on the weekends.
I chose this program because I wanted to learn the fundamentals of UX/UI, apply them to projects, which would help me to find a job. And that's exactly the focus of DESIGNATION.
A huge highlight for me was the client phase because the clients that I worked with were working towards impacting Chicago. One was working to shake-up the education space, to help teachers be able to focus more time on their students and another client was working towards minimizing food waste in the city. I think having opportunities like this makes DESIGNATION a lot more valuable, especially since it's in the 1871 space.
Design is constantly changing, and so is DESIGNATION, for their students, which I appreciate. They have built a process that does help students to find jobs, AS LONG AS you do your part in putting together case studies and a portfolio, so don't slack on that.
I valued my time at DESIGNATION. Before attending the program, I was a teacher without any formal design experience and nervous about the ambiguity of changing careers. Through its rigorous content and nurturing delivery, the program made me confident in my abilities. Working with real startup clients was an invaluable experience that strengthened my design processes. I also want to acknowledge DESIGNATION for being an incredibly inclusive atmosphere for LGBT people. I appreciate how empowering the experience was.
While DESIGNATION is nurturing, it doesn't coddle. The effectiveness of the bootcamp relies on self-motivatation. That said, the staff is extremely responsive and eager to offer support.
I'd highly recommend DESIGNATION to any ambitious people seeking a safe learning environment.
I was looking to expand my design skills and break into the field of UX/UI, when I stumbled upon DESIGNATION on Course Report. As a web and graphic designer I had experience in design but this is a whole new level. The course is extremely challenging, but also extremely rewarding. I have learned more in the 18 weeks of this course than I did throughout a good portion of my college years. I truly believe that they have set me up, and will continue to support me, to get the best possible job that I can to start my new career.
When I found DESIGNATION while looking for graphic design master's programs, I didn't even know what UX was. After doing research and meeting with several of the UX/UI programs in Chicago, I knew that DESIGNATION was my best option at finding a career that I would enjoy going to every day. The real world experience you get and the network that you make during the program are invaluable. I am so glad I stumbled upon their website less than a year ago and am extremely excited for my new career in UX/UI.
I was debating between General Assembly and DESIGNATION. I was very apprehensive about whether I was prepared to do either bootcamp because I didn't have any formal design background. However Designation does a great job in preparing you for the in person bootcamp. I completed a 4 week preparation course to get more practice using Illustrator, Photoshop, and Sketch. An instructor revivewed each work and gave comprehensive feedback. After the 4 week course I was accepted in the 6 week virtual course and designed a mobile app. I met with my classmates and instructor each week to review our work. This was incredibly helpful in receiving and giving constructive criticism. I interviewed for General Assembly and only had one interview and was acceppted in the program. Looking back now, I couldn't have imagined being as confident as I am with my skills without the preparation DESIGNATION provided me.
At Designation I learned how to conduct user research, brainstorm solutioins, prototype, test solutions, and visually design solutions. I worked with 3 UX teams and with real clients to help them solve their business challenges. I can proudly say I formed long lasting friendships because of the camraderie and bonds you form with your classmates. Our clients were really happy and proud of our work. The constraints and deadlines you encounter will challenge you and your team to make difficult decisions. All of my experiences helped me become a better designer and communicator. I learned how to defend my design decisions and not be married to them either. Everyone supports each other and is always willing to help. We all came from different background but it was very inspiring to be consistenly surrounded by motivated individuals. You have a lot of fun in a beautiful city.
You receive a lot of guidance and advice on your resume and case studies. However, you really have to put in the work and discipilne of reseraching good/bad portfolios, telling a story, asking your network for feedback, and practicing design challenges. Speaking about my experiences at DESIGNATION through my portfolio and interviews helped me land a job as a UX designer. I'm really proud to be an alumni and to be part of a growing network.
Designation was awesome, and I think it deserves a five star rating. The instruction was mostly great, I learned a ton—in part because it was a really fun experience—and I was able to build a really strong portfolio. I also got to know a lot of great new people, make some lifelong friends, fall in love with the city of Chicago (so much so that I’m staying), and launch my career as a UX/UI designer. I really believe I got everything I wanted out of the program.
I was able to graduate with a really strong portfolio and set of skills that has gotten me interviews at companies like Allstate, Accenture, Walgreens, Coursera, Jellyvision, BuiltinChicago, Civis Analytics. I’ve been working an internship at Perkins+Will doing UX and UI design, and it looks like I’ll be joining Walgreen’s Design team as a UI designer this fall.
If you have some prior design (graphic, visual) or development (websites, wordpess) experience—Designation is an easy bet. It will build on things you know, but at a level or rigor that’s hard to learn on your own.
If you are totally new to the field, but extremely motivated—the program could be for you, but make sure you’re realistic. Employers will be more cautious, since your portfolio will be lighter, and you may have to take an internship before landing that full-time job.
Bottom: Designation is tough, fun, and on the whole—worth it.
Let's start by saying I would have had no idea where to start in my UX career without DESIGNATION. Their career councelor/guide is incredible and very intense. Mike is constantly pushing to make your work better and always available to review your work, and help you find a job that not only fits the companies needs, but yours as well. He helps build a portfolio, case studies, resumes, a linkedin, a personal brand, how to give presentations, how to act as a professional in the design community. The community building aspect of it is great too, and I certainly made some lifelong friends and a "network"(what a horrible word) of people that I now know within the design community.
You do actual work for real world clients and have the ability to put that experience on your resume, see what youve designed come into reality. Megan Meuller is an incredible creative director, and Dan Hopewell does an amazing job of setting up clients to work with.
So one of the things that DESIGNATION excells at is taking advice on what they can improve on, and listening to the job market to see how they can make their students as hire-able as possible. Students from now on will choose a UX or a UI career path as a major (though you will learn the essentials of both). They have removed the frontend dev/markup language part of the course because the vasat majority of jobs arent looking for a unicorn that can do all the UX the UI and the code, and even if they had one on their hands they'd most likely have them focusing on one field. Instead of coming out of DESIGNATION being mediocre at all 3 parts of Front End Dev, they push you to be incredible in one area, and use that as leverage into the other fields if they interest you. As a UX or UI designer the likelyhood that you will be actually coding for your job is incredibly small. It's a plus, a benefit, you'll need to know certain keywords to communicate with developers but you can learn all of that through treehouse or codeacademy with 20 hours of your free time. You dont need to pay a bootcamp to teach you that.
Right now, the community between the faculty and students (but really they treat you more like employees,which is a good thing) is a little weird. I wish that the staff rotated through giving 5 minute announcements at the begining of each day or something to put all of them in front of us more so we could have learned and empathized with their personalities more. We had an incident where we took an assignment as more of a lighthearted team building exercise, while the instructor definitely wanted us to take it waaaaay more seriously. We had only communicated with him once or twice before this and had no idea it would have been recieved so negatively. It was a minor slight, but it put a weird damper on our relationship with the faculty for the rest of our time. Also just in general moer transprency on decisions they make, and why. Continue pulling aside individuals that you have actionable issues/criticism with, instead of adressing the class as a monolith.
I've already recomended several of my good friends that are in a career rut that they should pursue starting their career at DESIGNATION. I'm from Atlanta and was more than happy with my decision to move to Chicago to pivot my career. 5/5, ten outta ten, gold star, blue ribbon. Oh if youre from out of town make sure you look up the walkingscore of your apartment youre gonna sublet/rent. and try and get there 30 minutes early everyday, it allows you to level your head, and making your team of 2-4 work, and start their daily plans without you is selfish (plus these are your friends youre gonna be looking to get a job with 5 years down the line.)
DESIGNATION was a great experience that is a good choice for those looking to get into the field. They are starting to get more exclusive with admissions, which bodes well for its reputation. They put a great deal of emphasis on the virtual phase, so no time is wasted in the live phase. They have stopped offering coding instruction, so beware of that if that is one of your interests. DESIGNATION is very much what you put into it. Take advantage of the resources and especially the people and network.
DESIGNATION is a very big commitment for anyone considering joining. Being without an income for four months is stressful, but the cost of the program is fair, and if you are serious about changing or advancing your career it is totally worth it.
The program is broken into three phases. During the Virtual Phase you work remotely. I was able to maintain a job during this part of the program. Most people don’t necessarily recommend having a job during this time, but I would actually recommend working at least part time because it allowed me to be used to the long days that you’ll be putting in during the Immersion and Client Phases of the program.
Overall the course work brings you through the entirety of the UX and UI process, so you’ll get experience with everything. You move very quickly so you may find times where you would have liked to focus on something a bit longer (for me it was the UX research and interviewing), but you have unstructured time at the end of each day that you can carve out for that on your own.
When you move from a project that requires you to perform every step (the Immersion Phase) to working with actual clients (the Client Phase), the program really excels in giving you the opportunity to determine what is appropriate for multiple individual projects, something that other programs are lacking. I came from working in an agency environment, so I am confident that that skill is something employers are really looking for.
The instructors are extremely helpful in a way that really sets the program apart from traditional academic environments. They are friendly, approachable, and make an effort to be available to students.
I understand that everyone works differently, but one thing I would have liked would have been more focus on establishing an efficient workflow, even if it was just a template that I can build from on my own.
Overall, I would highly recommend DESIGNATION to anyone who is seriously considering entering the industry. You get what you put in, and you’re surrounded by great people that are trying to do the same.
It was the most intense experience I've ever had and also the best. They have great instructors, always willing to help. There has not been one time when I've been stuck and couldn't find an instructor to help me, even after finishing the course. They offer top notch resources. Have no doubt that if you put the effort you will become a UX/UI designer. Most importantly, you'll learn how to be a profesional in the field. After learning for the first few weeks we then worked with real life clients on real projects. Eventhough we had guidance, I felt confident with my knowledge, skills and the quality of my work. There's no substitute for working with real clients and their feedback is very gratifying. I made great friends in the process too. I would do it again and double down. Be prepared to work hard, very hard. It's doable, but remember that what you take out is directly proportional to what you put into it. The only feedback I had was that they needed more people to assist with job placement but they took care of that already so it's cool.
The key to success at the program is that you get what you put into it. I was so lucky that my fellow students were all hardworking and we pushed each other to improve at a crazy fast pace, because other cohorts before/after us didn't seem to have made as much progress or done as well after the program as we did.
In terms of job support, it really works the same way the program does – you get what you put into it. The resources are all there, and the program did a great job with introducing us to the design community, especially when we did studio tours of various companies around Chicago. The Community Director is really wonderful and definitely made me feel very prepared. I'm really happy with where I am now and am so, so grateful to have been able to make such a big change to my career in a short amount of time.
TLDR - the program gives you all the resources you need to succeed, but it comes down to the work you put into it
I recently graduated from the Ruby Cohort. Really great experience. DESIGNATION offers a wealth of suport from industry professionals who are more than willing to take their time to give lectures and one-on-one advice. The pace is fast and intense, but if you put the time in and embrace the experience it will prepare you for an exciting new career. The staff do a great job getting you ready for the real-world and really stress the soft skills of how to talk about yourself as a designer, your work, and your experince. The one thing DESIGNATION offers that none of the other bootcamps can compete with is the opportunity to work with two clients and design for real-life applications and products. If you're thinking about a UX/UI bootcamp, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND DESIGNATION.
DESIGNATION was a really amazing experience for me. There are so many resources, instructors, and mentors to tap into and guide you throughtout the learning process. It's fast paced, but really rewarding. I feel very secure in my skillset, and although I know it's only the beginning of my career, DESIGNATION has provided me with a firm foundation upon which I can confidently build upon.
People that didn't have such a great experience in my cohort seemed to expect DESIGNATION to do the work for them. Don't come here expecting to be spoon-fed UX/UI skills. Come here expecting to do work.
That said, you're most definitely not alone - your fellow students, instructors and mentors provide such good assistance, guidance, and teaching. As you're doing the work, you're learning and growing. By the end of the process, you'll have learned and grown so much.
DESIGNATION is one of the best decisions I have made for my career. What set this program apart from other available options was their focus on students gaining real experience working with clients, collaborating with team members, and creating projects within a fast, iterative timeline. They definitely delivered.
Even after having graduated the program I find that it keeps adding value as I continue my career as a designer. They have built an amazing active community for both students and alumni. It is a great resource for news, mentorship, advice, job opportunities, etc.
The program itself is iterative and constantly changing based on feedback from students. These changes are driven by a team who is passionate about what they do and who work hard to deliver an engaging experience as well as results for its students.
I graduated from the Obsidian Cohort in March 2016 and got a job offer about a month after. I spend a great deal of time looking at other bootcamp programs before finally deciding to attend DESIGNATION. I even left New York to spend a very cold winter in Chicago - that's how great the curriculum is. Unlike other programs, DESIGNATION is a full-stack program; which means that you'll learn UX, visual design, AND front-end dev. This is crucial in today's job market, as companies are looking for designers who have multiple skills.
Not only is the curriculum great, I love the people I met during the program. It's great to be surrounded by people with similar goals and interests. As some of the other reviews have mentioned, yes the hours are long and at times you will be stressed out but it's definitely worth it!
I was a member of the Magenta cohort that graduated in November 2015. After graduating, I was hired by the program as a Designer-in-Residence.
I can wholeheartedly say that DESIGNATION changed my life. I enrolled in the program without having had any formal design training, yet with the guidance of the instructors, the comprehensive curriculum and many late nights of effort, I am now confident in my abilities as a digital designer.
Having been both a student and an employee of the program I was able to gain the student perspective but also a look behind the scenes.
As a student, DESIGNATION was one of the most challenging yet rewarding academic journeys I have been on. There is an incredible amount of information that will be thrown at you, and you will inevitably feel overwhelmed at points; however it will be a shared experience between you and your fellow cohort members who will become close friends that you can lean on.
DESIGNATION will provide the tools and guidance for success, however, success is not a given. It is the student's responsibility to be self-disciplined and to take advantage of the resources provided by the program.
The instructors are one of the key resources of the program. The instructors are knowledgeable and want to see you succeed. They are there to provide guidance and help you on your journey. That said, they are not there to hold your hand. You are expected to put in the required hours and effort.
An additional resource that is just as important as the instructors, if not more so, is your fellow cohort members. Fellow cohort members (as well as those in the senior or junior cohort) will teach you much more than you expect. Learning design is about practice and being open to critique. If you consistently ask your cohort members for feedback, you will accelerate your growth and learning.
Unlike other programs, DESIGNATION gives you the chance to work with actual clients (startups in Chicago and around the country) to gain real-world experience which in turn distinguishes the work of a DESIGNATION graduate from those of other bootcamps. You will learn how to navigate client relationships which is a critical skill to possess.
As part of the program you are paired with a mentor; a working design professional who can answer any questions you have regarding the working design world, the application and interview process, etc. Again, it's up to you to schedule the meetings with your mentor.
The career support is also another selling point of the program. There is a dedicated community director who provides portfolio development support while you are still a student and will assist you in making connections with companies once you are a graduate of the program. DESIGNATION does not guarantee a job upon graduation, but if you ask for assistance, they will do what they can to connect you with recruiters and companies. You will find that they won't always be able to help you in the case that they have no connection with the company but as time goes by, the stronger and more expansive the DESIGNATION network becomes.
As an employee of the program, I was able to see and contribute first-hand to the program itself. DESIGNATION practices what it preaches in that the curriculum is constantly being iterated upon based on student feedback. They make it a priority to figure out how to address frustrations that students have.
The program is not perfect - there will be moments of frustration, but you are actively encouraged to voice your concerns. The staff is genuinely invested in your success.
Overall, this program has the capacity to change the direction of your career. You will get out of it what you put in. It won't be easy, but you will have the support of a lot of people along the way. You will form friendships that will last a lifetime; you'll learn more over the course of the program than you ever thought possible and you will have a great of a time doing it.
I graduated from the program in April and just got my first job offer. So I can happily say that the program is legit and would reccomend it. I think there are a few things to know/consider to get the most out of the program:
- Know the basics of what UX is BEFOREHAND. Read as much as you can to get aquianted with terms and everything else UX so that you can hit the ground running.
- Be ready to work your ass off. When they say the program is intense, they mean it. When they say it's 70 hours a week, they mean it. When they say you really have to put in the effort on your portfolio (during the latter career phase), they mean it. Or you could be lazy and slack off throughout the program, but good luck with the job hunt afterwards.
- The instructors are awesome, and expose you to a wide variety of views, opinions, and styles. Realize that everything you learn is subjective, and you have to process or filter your feedback. Also, you will learn SO MUCH, but there is inifinitely more for you to still learn after. This field in general is best for lifelong learners.
- It's not perfect. There were definitely bumps in the road, but I think thats to be expected. The staff at DESIGNATION are all very friendly, genuinely interested in their mission, and adamanet about constantly asking for feedback and improving the program. This is key, IMO.
- The people you are exposed to and the network they help you to create is one of the biggest benefits in my opinion. Especially for a pretty big introvert like me, the opportunity to comfortably meet and talk with designers and other creatives and tech people from all over Chicago (and beyond) is amazing.
- The opportunity to work with two REAL clients is one of the key benefits of the program. Be as involved as possible during the client phase, because not only can this open up opportunities to you in the future, but being able to speak to real world client work during interviews is something graduates from similar programs cannnot say.
- Just competing the program isn't going to land you a job. This wasn't clear to me when I started, so I just want to try to be upfront about all of the work required to really be ready to search for jobs: resume, personal statement, portfolio site with 3-5 case studies. (THIS IS MORE WORK THAN YOU EXPECT). You begin work on this in the final 6 weeks, but its completely up to you how much you get done. It took me about a week and a half after the program to finish my portfolio, and I was the second one finished. So just remember, after the program, theres still plenty of work to do.
Overall, I really appreciate the program and the people, and where they've helped me get to today. Just know what you are getting in to, be ready to work your ass off, and go for it!
After graduating and moving back to San Francisco, one of my first design job interviews was with a hiring team that pulled my application from the applicant pool because they saw DESIGNATION on my resume. They had a great experience with another graduate and were eager to bring in someone with a similar skillset. That experience reminded me that I made the right decision to attend this bootcamp.
A few attributes set DESIGNATION apart from other design programs, in my mind:
- Intimate learning environment: DESIGNATION is small in all the right ways. While the staff have strong and deep ties to the design community and professional world, each cohort is comprised of maybe 20 students. You will get the help you need to reach your design goals. Instructors and classmates will learn your strengths and weaknesses. Everyone will help you improve by leaps and bounds.
- Startup workspace: The program occupies part of 1871, an incubator and co-working space. This means that, if you want, you can meet and talk with professionals from different fields who can offer you "outside" opinions and perspectives on design. I was even offered a few freelance opportunities while still in the program.
- Real client design projects: The last six weeks of the program are allotted to two design consulting projects with real businesses that want design work. This is an unreal opportunity to apply your newly-acquired design skills to the real world. These projects make for great portfolio pieces.
The reason I only give the program 4 out of 5 stars on job assistance is because they do not have established placement programs with companies who agree to interview new graduates (this is a practice that a few friends at development bootcamps have told me about). However, DESIGNATION does have a full-time staff member who focuses on professional development and a significant portion of the program is focused on getting you ready to find a design job. Again, the DESIGNATION community is strong and we have an internal job board where new roles and potential referals are posted everyday.
The instructors are great, they come from many different backgrounds, and they really know what they're talking about. With experiences in UX/UI design, advertising, graphic design, front end development, entrepreneurship, logo design, and so on, I dont remember having a question that somebody in 1871 didn't have the answer to.
At DESIGNATION, you're doing something productive towards your future 11+ hours every single day and that really makes you remember the knowledge you are learning. I learned more about design and front end development in the first 2 weeks then I did the previous 2 years in college. Doing something for 70+ hours a week is going to quickly get you better at whatever that something is.
Lastly, the 'job-opportunities' message board is constantly being posted to by the instructors and alumni located worldwide. With how big the network is, it is very easy to find job openings that fit your criteria. My cohort has gotten job offers from Hawaii to Boston, and many places in between.
I would not be where I am now without DESIGNATION. Looking back I can't believe how much they were able to teach and mold me in such a short time. I'm not going to lie, it was hard. But I wouldn't trade it for anything. I feel like they take 1-2 years worth of content and experiences and cram it into 4 months. Our instructores really knew their stuff, they could be hard on you but in a way that pushed you to do better. I loved that it wasn't just theoretical content. I got to work with real clients and was able to leave with a portfolio of work and an understanding of how to work with other designers.
Great people, great vibes, great instruction. Other descriptors? Long hours, lots of coffee, tons of laughs. I learned the theory and technical skills, while making great friends along the way. For those looking for a career transition into the world of digital design, DESIGNATION allows the space to learn a whole new set of skills in a very short amount of time.
On the instructor side, most of the instructors don’t have to be teaching (and could probably be making more money designing instead). Yet you have these teachers that do it because they want to be there. (I've heard it's a different story for GA.) Whether it’s the nighttime instructors who work day jobs too or the day-time instructor Won who could definitely get any full-stack designer/developer job in Silicon Valley, the passion is palpable on all fronts.
DESIGNATION is a complete experience that was overwhelming with all it had to offer. As a career switcher who had only 18 weeks to learn everything I could, I graduated recently wishing I had more time or preparation going in so I could absorb even more of the content. I chose to focus in UX but seeing the quality of the curriculum in UI and front-end development made me wish that I had the time to specialize and learn all I could in those areas as well.
I came away from this immersive experience feeling extremely confident in my new skills as a UX Designer but also confident that my experiences and the assistance here will help me find a job.
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Founded in 2013, DESIGNATION offers an immersive bootcamp for aspiring UX and UI designers. Mike Joosse, their new Community Director, tells us about his transition from the design world to DESIGNATION, the most important ingredient for a successful UX designer and how DESIGNATION prepares students for post-bootcamp careers.
Tell us about your background and what you were doing before DESIGNATION.
I come from a design background. I went to design school a long time ago and was a practicing designer for a while. I took a few different turns until I eventually came to Chicago and worked as a Communications Director for a local brand and marketing agency called VSA Partners.
One of my duties was promoting the agency’s digital services. They were long known in print, design, branding and typography, but they had this amazing digital team doing UX, content strategy and front end/back end development. When I got to know them and their passion for wanting to mentor and be involved with educational opportunities, I thought about DESIGNATION.
I had friends who were part-time teachers and mentors here. Their name kept coming up, so they were the first people that I talked to while I was at VSA and said, “Our digital team would love to get involved with you guys, how can we do that?” That started the conversation that eventually led me here.
Your role at DESIGNATION is Community Director; what does that mean?
It has a few different meanings. We’re still a small startup and our roles are diverse. We cover a lot of ground and that’s very exciting to me because I’ve always been a person who loves having multiple responsibilities. It’s mainly defining and engaging our community. That’s everything from graduates to current students and companies in the communities where we place graduates.
For companies, it means finding ways to bring awareness to all DESIGNATION has to offer. How do we get them to understand the great things that DESIGNATION graduates can offer them? How can we provide mentorship opportunities for their employees? How can we get them involved in all of the other educational opportunities that are here in Chicago? I also manage external events and partnerships, interfacing with organizations like AIGA Chicago, IXDA Chicago and chiDUXX.
I’ve been working in the design community for a long time, and I love being able to work with so many people to promote a wonderful program that I was a fan of before I came here.
Did it take some time to be convinced of the bootcamp model?
It took about five minutes for me to realize that bootcamps are a pretty amazing recent development. It’s an excellent alternative to traditional design education, especially in the areas of UX and UI, which haven’t been around that long. I’ve seen so many people go through a two- or four-year program or more, just to have a never-ending stream of continuing education where you don’t necessarily reach a goal, you’re just observing knowledge. That can very easily go to waste.
Ultimately, I respect hard work and commitment. When somebody agrees to a really intensive bootcamp experience, I see that as a pretty amazing investment that I want to maximize for them.
Is there a traditional UX/UI design education path? Who are DESIGNATION graduates going up against when they’re applying for jobs?
There are a lot of different ways to teach and learn UX, especially here in Chicago. There are some programs that are very conceptual and research-based. Graduates from those programs (which are usually two to four-year programs) are leaning more towards strategist roles where they’re all about planning and big picture strategy. Graduates from other programs are very task-based and there’s not necessarily much conceptual background.
I see DESIGNATION as being in the center. We stress the importance of the concept but also putting in the work. We produce people who have to be strong as designers and as creators.
There are a lot of different opportunities and roles for UX and UI designers. The current scene feels like where design was 20 years ago or maybe earlier, because there are so many different types of people entering the field and there are opportunities for everybody.
When we say UX/UI, we tend to associate those together but in your experience in getting people placed and being on the hiring side of it, is there really such a thing as a UX/UI designer?
I think so, but I think we also see some of our graduates go to work at startups that have five or ten people. At that size, the odds of somebody being multi-faceted like that goes way up. I like encouraging people to follow these opportunities. If they really want to practice both, I say, market yourself to those startups and smaller companies so that you can be more of a generalist.
But I warn them – as these startups get larger, they’re going to hire more people and your job will narrow to be more specialist. We already see so many graduates who want to specialize in one area and we say, that’s great. Keep developing your portfolio along that route, but always maintain the other skills. If you want to practice UI, keep developing your knowledge of UX; learn the basics of coding because that’s going to help you empathize with your team, who will also help you become a more conscientious designer.
What companies are leading the hire of UX/UI designers? Is that a first hire in your experience?
I’m not sure there’s a specific size where that’s really important. I’d like to believe that UX and UI – especially UX – are growing in prominence and urgency for these companies. They’re realizing that they need to hire these people much sooner than they did in the past. I think a UX designer has to be at the beginning of the conversation. He has to be in the room to say, “What do you want this product to achieve? What is it supposed to do and who is supposed to do it?”
When thoughtful, conscientious designers get in at the beginning of a process, they can make a big difference. We constantly teach our students – and it’s probably a universally accepted truth at this point – that the problem is not always what the client believes it to be. It’s what you, the researcher and designer who’s looking at this from a bird's-eye perspective see it is. It could be an entirely different problem, so you have to solve that problem instead. The sooner that they realize that the sooner they can make an impact on the process.
Is UX/UI design a career that someone can transition into? Do you have to have a design background in order to transition into UX/UI?
When you’re looking at things like composition and form and structure, having a design background definitely helps. But I think bigger than that, the best students and graduates are the ones who are interested in tackling a problem from a new perspective. They’re ones that value empathy, understanding what someone else’s need might be and how they can do something about that.
We’ve accepted students who work in data science, social work and education. These are people who never opened up Axure or Sketch before. But they come with a fundamental understanding of what UX achieves and what UI achieves and what you can accomplish as a designer at a very basic level. Those are people that have the best opportunity because it’s harder to teach somebody empathy or teamwork or discerning what the client is saying. And if you’ve had experience doing that before, to me, that’s more valuable than a design or coding background.
As the Community Director, you’re connecting students with the professional design world. You mentioned meeting with students to understand their needs and goals. When does that process start at DESIGNATION? Are you meeting with students once a week throughout the course?
Our program is 12 weeks and about five or six weeks in is when I pair students with a professional mentor who’s in their area—a UX designer, UI designer or somebody who’s a mixture of those. The one-on-one relationships that I build with the students really start after that mentorship assignment.
We start bringing in guest speakers to talk about their experiences on specific topics like how to build a case study or tips on interviewing. Sometimes it’s very big picture like “here’s what life is like at this startup” or “Here’s what it’s like to work as a UX designer with 50 other UX designers around you.” We also start doing some studio tours and weekly workshops on best practices for finding a job and building a portfolio.
It means a lot of one-on-one work with students. I sit down with them at the halfway point (week six) and starting asking about what they’d like to do. Sometimes those ideas are fully formed; other times they’re very general and it takes an ability to discern what they’re actually looking for. When they say things like, “I want a mentor” or “I’d like to be able to keep learning while I’m there” then I can say, “You might be looking for an in house team environment or a larger product design company where they have that structure built in.” My dad is a guidance counselor and I think he passed on a lot of that curiosity and desire to help students – with their portfolios and personal brands and make introductions with companies they want to work for.
As you are connecting with companies, the biggest question that I get is who actually hires bootcamp graduates?
It seems like twice a week, I send an email to another company just to introduce DESIGNATION. We find that they respond very well to these students committing a lot of their lives to shift their career. They're very passionate and excited about how they’re coming out of this program, and they’re very skilled.
We tell them about how unique the DESIGNATION curriculum is. So when they do meet our students, they’re impressed with the way they talk about their work and the experiences they’ve had. They’re quantifying those unique things about DESIGNATION that put them above graduates from other programs, bootcamps or otherwise.
One by one, we’re reaching more companies and more people who are saying, “Man, there’s something special about designers who’ve come out of bootcamps in general, and DESIGNATION specifically. Maybe we need to look at using bootcamps like DESIGNATION to source our employees.” I think they realize that when you’re used to working 11, 12 hours a day/70 hours a week for a sustained period of time, you can do anything as a professional. You can learn things very fast because you’re used to that pace.
Since arriving at DESIGNATION, what have you noticed that you need to add to this hiring process and how have you iterated on it?
I’ve built my career in the last six or seven years since I stopped being a designer around helping people. That propelled me in a really interesting direction based on doing what I could to help people get to this other stage of their career.
When I came to DESIGNATION, I realized this was a perfect opportunity where there were a bunch of students every six weeks saying, “I’m not entirely sure where I’m going. I know that I want to get there and I know that I’m going to be a good UX/UI designer when I get there. What can you tell me about what I can do from here?” Being able to be in that conversation is such an honor and a huge responsibility for me that I take very seriously.
Setting aside time to build a relationship with every student and saying, “Your success is my success” is my priority. And when students go out there and find a job, it’s the greatest feeling that I could have.
Welcome to the September News Roundup, your monthly news digest full of the most interesting articles and announcements in the bootcamp space. Do you want something considered for the next News Roundup? Submit announcements of new courses, scholarships, or open jobs at your school!
This Week on Course Report:
- Should you learn web or mobile development first? We dive into this question with advice from Atlanta's DigitalCrafts code school!
- Have you tried Thinkful's Workshops? Grae, the Head of Education at Thinkful, gives us the scoop on their newest offering for bootcamp grads and working engineers.
- Mechanical-Engineer-turned-Web-Developer Kacy Ebel talks about her career change and her experience at We Can Code It's women-only bootcamp.
Aquisitions, Fundraises & Regulation
- General Assembly announced their $70MM Series D. This reporter thinks about what the fundraise could mean for their London campus.
- Hack Reactor acquired Chicago-based Mobile Makers Academy, adding iOS to their offerings. They also announced "Hack Reactor Core," the umbrella under which each school will operate autonomously.
- Inside Higher Ed reported on General Assembly's journey through regulation and expansion. Education Dive provides a nice, brief summary of the article.
- The Huffington Post reported on a letter from Jeremy Shaki and Khurram Virani (Founders of Lighthouse Labs) to parliament on code literacy, outcome-based education, and Canadian innovation through technology.
New Campuses + Courses:
- Dev Bootcamp announced they will open doors in San Diego this November.
- Montana Code School's first cohort started class September 28. (Listen to Montana Public Radio's story on the bootcamp).
- ThoughtKite will teach their first Toronto iOS bootcamp in October.
- Code Fellows has overhauled and reorganized their courses (bye bye Dev Accelerators, hello Code 401!)
- Applications for Code Platoon, a Chicago bootcamp geared towards veterans, are now open.
- Global News Canada writes about Toronto's Bitmaker Labs.
- Fortune Magazine explores women in Coding Bootcamps.
- FCW finds that coding bootcamps are 'Very empowering, very transformational.'
- A LinkedIn researcher blogged about the types of jobs reported by bootcampers on the networking site.
- Delaware Online looks back on ZipCode Wilmington's first bootcamp cohort.
- Built in Chicago: How Designation is bringing the bootcamp model to design.
- Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Milwaukee computer coding school expands as employers show interest.
- The Street: Future Code Monkeys May Skip College and Head to Boot Camp
Have a great October!
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With a degree in Advertising Art Direction, Martha Willis was looking for a way to build on her current skillset in pursuit of a web-based career. So she enrolled in DESIGNATION, a full-time, immersive design course in Chicago. We get the scoop from Martha about the application process, her new job as a UI Designer, and how she's continued her education after DESIGNATION.
What were you doing before you started at DESIGNATION?
Just before starting at DESIGNATION, I was working as a junior designer at Proof Integrated Communication - a small NYC based digital agency. I worked on traditional print pieces as well as digital web design.
Did you have a technical or design background before you applied?
Why did you choose DESIGNATION? Did you apply to any other bootcamps?
DESIGNATION was the only bootcamp I applied to - I was originally looking for classes I could take while still working full-time. I wanted something to supplement my current knowledge base, that could lead to a more web based career. When I compared the various programs I realized that DESIGNATION would be the best fit for me. I really liked the idea of being able to fully immerse myself into my learning and surround myself with other passionate creatives.
What was the application process like?
I made the decision to apply fairly close to the deadline for the first cohort so my application process was fairly quick. I filled out the online application, submitted my portfolio site and went through an in-person interview. It was a really great way to get a better sense of the program and the people involved.
What was your cohort like? Did you find diversity in age, race, gender etc?
My cohort was fairly mixed group. Many of us were a few years out of college, others were older. My cohort was mostly female, but the cohort right after was mostly male. Ultimately, we all had the same goal - to become better at our craft and support each other in our endeavors.
Who were your instructors? What was the teaching style like and how did it work with your learning style?
The instructors were designers/developers currently working in their chosen field. They are incredibly knowledgable and were more than happy to share that knowledge (both in and outside of class). Class structures varied depending on the topic being discussed. Usually there was a lecture component and a workshop/hands-on component. We often did peer review for our visual design, all-day workshops for user experience and live coding classes. They were very open to adaption so if something wasn’t working or a student needed extra help, they would do their best to accommodate students.
Did you ever experience burnout? How did you push through it?
Burnout is pretty standard in any creative endeavor - especially when you’re working as many hours as many of us did while at DESIGNATION. Being able to take a walk and get a change of scenery are easy ways to restart your brain. Also, making sure to make time for self-care is really important. Even though it’s a rigorous schedule, there is still time to get away and clear your head. It also helps that there are other people going through the exact same thing you are so you can rely on each other for support and understanding.
Can you tell us about a time when you were challenged in the class?
Tell us about a project you're proud of that you made during DESIGNATION.
Near the end of my time at DESIGNATION, we worked in teams of three-four to design and pitch a native mobile app to a local startup. It was really great experience to be given the opportunity to work on real client work. We had to apply everything we had learned up to that point - with some help from instructors as well. For our wire framing and prototyping we worked in Adobe Illustrator and Omnigraffle. Most of our design work was done in photoshop and then everything was moved into Invision to create a working prototype. It can be viewed here!
What are you up to today? Where are you working and what does your job entail?
I am currently working as a web and mobile designer at Spartz, Inc - a small start up in Chicago. I work with some very intelligent, passionate people and I am given a lot of creative freedom. I currently do a little bit of everything; user experience design, interaction design, interface design and occasionally some CSS. I was connected to the company through one of the instructors at DESIGNATION.
Did you feel like DESIGNATION prepared you to get a job in the real world?
DESIGNATION definitely helped to prepare me for my new job. What I learned there can be applied to everything I do in my new position. I was given a great foundation to build upon. I have never regretted leaving my previous job to go to DESIGNATION and pursue something I was really passionate about.
Have you continued your education after you graduated?
I do a lot of reading to continue to build my knowledge base - both books and online blogs/magazines. There is no lack of information and resources out there to be discovered. Some are better than others, but there is always something to be learned from what you read. I also find that the best thing you can do is to keep building. Whatever your craft is, being young or new to the field means that you should always be creating. I strive to create as much as I can. It doesn’t have to be something large or groundbreaking, just something creative that gets my brain thinking.
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DESIGNATION is a digital design-focused school in Chicago that helps students with a technical or design background make the shift to digital design jobs. We talk with founder Kevin Yun about the differences between DESIGNATION and other web-development bootcamps, the types of applicants they look for, and why it's important to learn digital design now.
Kevin, tell us about your background and how you got into this boot camp model of education.
I’m a startup guy, but I didn’t really find my passion until I started doing design work for the startups I was working on. The startup world can be really scrappy, but you have to learn to do things quick and you have to learn to a lot of things, and wear lots of hats. That’s where most of my self-education and experience came from- just building products with friends and companies. I found that I was interested in design, and that’s when I saw the model for bootcamps coming up. Everyone’s focus seemed to be on programming, which design being treated to the side. There was like, five classes, part-time, but not a real focus on teaching digital design. I wanted to build a curriculum where it was full-exposure, where you’re not expected to be awesome at everything, but at least you would know the whole process. That’s why I started DESIGNATION.
How did you learn front-end development?
It took me a couple of years, here and there, of self-teaching and doing what needed to be done, but in the end, this is what I really like doing. Specifically, I like visual design, and going into a text editor to execute the design into code. Digital design is a large field, and there’s a tremendous amount of topics involved. The idea of DESIGNATION is really compressing all that knowledge and the insights from people with different experiences in design. Getting them in the same room for a really intense focus on ten weeks of design.
How long has DESIGNATION been operating?
It’s actually been a year now. We’ve had two part-time cohorts. But we just shifted into a full-time model a couple of months ago, and are about to launch our first class on April 21st. This is also the first that we’re talking to hiring partners, the first time we’re purposefully taking action to help students get jobs. That’s really the main goal. Our team has doubled within these last two months. There’s a lot of things that need to be changed, revamped, upgraded, and executed on, so we’ve been pretty busy on our end. Adding the hiring partnerships initiative is pretty insane.
How many people are working for DESIGNATION?
We have a network of mentors, designers, TAs, and design instructors. Really, the core team is our four instructors. Our setup is that we have lectures at night, and then a daytime immersion portion where students work on projects, assignments, and apply the things they learn in lectures during the daytime. It’s work and effort, when it comes down to it. We expect people to take a self-directed approach; we’ll hold your hand, but this is technology. In five years everything will be different, so it’s really important that student be self-directed and be motivated by themselves to reach their goals.
Why is it important to learn front end design?
Design has become really prominent, not just in terms of how things look, but the user experience and the research done behind building a product or service for a particular set of people that will use that. It’s not just, “Oh, let’s engineer something and push it out.” It’s starts with building personas, doing a lot of testing, iterating. Design is a large field, especially digital design- there’s everything from UX, front-end web development, and visual design. But really, the goal at DESIGNATION is to get students exposure to all the different types of design- we’re throwing a lot at our students, expecting them to put in the necessary work, follow the program and build an amazing portfolio by the end of the program.
Do students need to have the Adobe Suite to start the course?
We require all students to come in with Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop already installed. This is for the prep work involved, and of course, for the main program.
What’s the cohort size that you’re trying to stick to for this first full-time immersive program?
We’re looking anywhere between 18-24, depending on how we build out our space. We have a dedicated space now at 1440 N. Dayton St. in Chicago. The location is actually right off the red line, about a three-minute walk. The red line is one of five lines in the country that never stops running.
What are you looking for in potential students? And how many applicants and what kind of applicants are you seeing for this next program?
This whole week was jam-packed with interviews, as we’re trying to narrow it down for the next class. What we’re really looking for in candidates is a technical or design background. So what that means is that maybe you have experience in back-end or front-end coding, knowing syntax, and semantics of code, or you are familiar with the language of code. We’re pretty serious about our designers learning to code- we believe everybody should learn to code. Our applicant pool has actually been quite strong, and I’ve been pretty impressed by the people we’re taking in. We’re taking in people who have already held UX/UI design positions. Most of them are not junior level- we look for at least, mid to senior level people who want a change in their careers, who do have some experience in design, whether it is Photoshop, Illustrator, or UX. We don’t like to think that we teach people, or we’re a school, as much as we are a group of designers that are showing you our practice.
So, it’s really that we’re looking for applicants that are already experienced. We’ll accept some beginners if they have a really compelling application or interview we need people who can dedicate an intense ten weeks of their life, and have some sort of experience. This is why there’s prep work involved. We want everyone to be on the same page before coming to class, whether they’re advanced or beginners- at least they’ll all have gone through the same topics before entering.
I read on your blog that you have lowered tuition. What was the motivation there, and are you seeing more applicants, less applicants, people from different backgrounds that are now able to apply, or are you going to see any money on 2,000?
The course is really $1,000- if your goal is to get a job after the program and you take a job with one of our hiring partners, we’ll give you a $1000 tuition refund. When we went full-time, the expenses just skyrocketed through the roof. Between building a bigger team, handling admissions, hiring partners, logistics, internal marketing, and everything to make students come in and have a seamless experience. That’s been a full time, day in and day out job just for our internal team. But we lowered the tuition because we believe in the long term vision, which is to place people into design jobs. That’s something our partners are totally in line with. Our business, and the people and services we work for now- our whole team is totally in right now. And I would say that is the most important thing. We have a 100 percent dedicated team to help place our students in jobs.
Do you all have any outside funding?
My mentality has always been to just be bootstrapped. We are closing a couple of very small rounds from friends and family now- anywhere between 5K and 15K investments, just so we can sustain in the short term and focus on the long term.
It’s pretty clear that there is a disparity between men and women in the web development part of the tech world. Women are underrepresented, and minorities are even more underrepresented. Have you noticed, in your experience, that there is the same sort of disparity between men and women in the design world?
If you’re talking programming and computer science, I would definitely say there is a huge disparity. I was a student at the University of Illinois at Champaign, and their computer science program is pretty strong, so I hung around that building a lot, and you could definitely see the ratio. But if you’re talking in terms of creatives and designers, 60 percent of our past students have been female, 40 percent male. Our field is very creative, it is process driven. So I think that’s where it differentiates us. I think the overlap is where you see the coding aspect. I would say our classes don’t have that problem. It might actually be the opposite problem.
You seem to really emphasize the hiring aspect of DESIGNATION. Can you explain the relationships that you have with hiring partners?
We’ve been working on it for a couple weeks now, and it started with some companies reaching out and asking to talk to our students. And some of our students were asking us to help them polish up their portfolios. So we took those hints and we realized that we should just go the whole stretch. On top of that, we’ve been talking to companies that are anywhere from 100 person, design driven start-ups, start-ups that are just starting out, some that are VC funded- that need the talent to expedite their growth, and that can pay the commission for that talent. Just to give you a little scope, there’s 30,000 UX jobs open, and this is according to careerbuilder.com, and there’s only 3,000 professionals that can fill up those UX positions. And this is just for user experience design. What we’re trying to do is get designers that are 20 percent there, and get them to an 80-100% level, a point where they can work with these companies. We’re located in the same building as one of the leading UX agencies in the Midwest. Employers don’t care about your background if you came from a boot camp, or whatever else. It’s really, “Can you show us your portfolio? Can you explain your work? Are you a cool person that we could work with on a day to day basis?“
If a student takes a job with one of your hiring partners, then they get a thousand dollar refund, right?
We like to think of it as splitting half the tuition. Our business relies on the tail end, where we place designers into companies.
If that happens, is DESIGNATION also taking a recruiting fee, or a hiring fee, from the company?
Exactly. That’s how we’re going to pay the bills. $2000 is a crazy low tuition. We just want to work with awesome people- having a large financial barrier to entry didn’t make sense.
What is a design job interview like? How do you help your students train for those interviews?
Tell us about the tech scene, especially as it relates to design, in Chicago.
I’m glad we started in Chicago, just because things are way too expensive in San Francisco and New York. In terms of jobs, it’s just a rising industry in general. As technology gets less and less complex, as people build more products and develop and push and deploy apps, and work in the data, design is tremendously important in terms of not making crappy products- that means a good user experience.
The California regulatory agency story that came out a few weeks ago has gotten a lot of press. Has it given you all any pressure to become accredited or is that something that’s on your radar at all?
The main reason for that regulation is to keep out the fraud. For example, there’s been thirty boot camps that have just popped up for development and programming across the nation. Whether they’re good, bad, credible, there’ve been more than thirty that have popped out in the last year. In terms of quality and promises and guarantees, the state needs to protect students somehow, so we’re in support of it. We’re in talks with the state department of Illinois, we’re getting our documents organized, which puts good pressure on us in terms of organizational structure, academic calendar, etc.
Kevin, are there any plans to expand into other courses, other locations, in the future?
Our goal right now is 100 percent placement, nothing else. That’s our main focus. Everything we do is revolving around that fact.