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Nausicaa Lusano
Awesome experience in unfortunate times
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Mine was the first class to be taught fully on remote, therefore the start was postponed by 20 days to let the academy regroup and prepare, and I believe that they did a very good job. Our main communication channels were on Slack and Discord, and live lectures were held via either Discord or Zoom, with screen-sharing. We had two main assessments which failing either meant not being able to progress in the lessons, but without any obligation to pay tuition costs (as per contract, "No Cure No Pay" type), but with the possibility of a retry if over a minimum mark; we also had a final assessment at the very end, on our final portfolio project, a group project, and after that, a week of Job Accelerator.
Pros:The teachers are all very qualified and the curriculum is up to date, and mentioning the human aspect might seem a bit off-topic, but as we all know the imposter syndrome can be a huge issue, especially if you're a total beginner, and during the pandemic the feeling of isolation can be overwhelming, especially for expats who don't have any family or friends around - like it was for me, since I moved specifically to attend Codaisseur. Not only the teachers, but all the advisors and staff are very friendly and warm people, and I found nothing but a welcoming and supportive environment, either about becoming a developer and the challenges and self-doubt many students face, or the isolation and social deprivation due to the pandemic. At the end of every week (or every other week) we'd get a survey in which to anonymously assess and give feedback on how we were doing (not just limited to the course technically, but emotionally too), how the teachers were doing and how they could improve their service.
Cons:The course is indeed very demanding, stressful and intense, which is not a con per se, but it's a good heads-up because it really needs a lot of motivation. I can speak for my experience, which was fully on remote, but at times the feeling of isolation was no joke. I'm somebody who struggles a bit in asking for help, and not having a class full of people around me didn't give me a feel for the overall "atmosphere" in the class, and I ended up feeling behind (which was not necessarily true at all times) and isolated. -
Chervase
Recommend!
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I am a graduate of class 36. Participating in the bootcamp really brought my career to the next level and I am more that happy I chose to follow a bootcamp at the Codaisseur Academy.
The teachers are passionate about what they're doing and know how to translate complex topics so beginners understand what is going on.
Luckily I was prepared before I participated as I already had knowledge about html, css and Javascript. I think I would recommend new students to look into these topics before starting the academy as it takes a bit of the pressure off at the beginning. However, this does not mean you have to give everything and focus as it's really intense to learn so much in such a short time.
Having said that I still 100% recommend following this bootcamp if you want to Kickstart your career and want to bring your skills to the next level! -
Leonie
Great start for a career in web development
Almost two years ago I decided to change my path and learn to code. Codaisseur has been the best imaginable place to start. They not only teach you the most modern web development tech stack, but evenly important they teach you how to be confident of these new skills. The amount of knowledge can be overwhelming, but then you notice you get your app to work, one line of code at the time. -
Rianne
Most intense course i’ve ever had
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I attended the 10 week boothcamp in 2018. It was the most intense, fun, educative 10 weeks of my life. I learned a lot, the teachers were strickt but nice. As someone with a university degree I can say that I had to step up my game and give it all.I enjoyed it but it was also stressfull because you learn so much in a short time. I recommend taking this course only if you want to give it your all or if you already have coding experience in another language or something, if not, don’t.
The course has fun practical projects and they also help you to find a job.
I am so glad that i took this course and that I could jump start my new career as a developer! -
Reha
Recommended!
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I have completed Codaisseur Academy in 2018. After weeks of an intense program (you'll miss sleep), I was among the graduates of my cohort. The program was highly engaging, and many of the real-life scenarios are being covered during the academy. This brings affinity with problems and tasks you will be tackling in your next developer position.
Codaisseur is made up of passionate people who are eager to inspire you to be a better developer. The program is not easy, and not everyone reached the end. But it was a valuable experience for me, and I'd recommend it to everyone who is aiming to get into the world of programming or pushing to become a better developer. -
Daria E.
Highly recommended!
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I attended this bootcamp almost two years ago and this was one of the best decisions in my career. It was surely not easy to graduate, but I secured a job immediately after graduation. The fact that the program was tough made me a much better developer. I learned how to learn new programming languages and get up to speed with projects very quickly. During the study there was also a lot of help available. Even if you ask the same question 5 times (as I did myself), the teachers will keep helping you figure it out.Back then, before corona-related economical issues hit us all, it was a different market. There was more demand for all kinds of professionals, not only IT. That has changed now - it takes more time and effort to get a job.But even in this situation, I am sure Codaisseur is helping their current student as much as possible. I also worked with one of the last graduates on a project I was helping them with just last week - and a lot were interviewing at many different places. If you expect everything to be done for you - well, no one will just hand you a job. This is reality. You need to apply for jobs yourself but if you present yourself well (and Codaisseur has the resources to help you do so, you just need to utilize them), you will find yourself employed pretty quickly.Plus, before I even came to Codaisseur I asked several senior developer friends to help me choose a bootcamp. After reviewing them all, literally every person said I should do Codaisseur. That says something very positive about the content of the study too. So, all in all, highly recommended! -
CM Lee
Highly Recommended
For those who want to switch to IT Development career or enhance existing IT knowledge, I highly recommend Codaisseur. After finishing the course, a lot of opportunities will open up for you in Dutch job market. -
Cor
Codaisseur web development bootcamp
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An immersive bootcamp that helps you acquire all the necessary tools to kickstart your career in web development.
I started my bootcamp in October 2017, finished in December and got a job as a Javascript Developer in Januari 2018. The course not only taught me enough of the basics of web development to start a job, it also gave me the confidence that I would be able to keep growing and learning as soon as the course was over.
The course is fast, there is a wide variety of topics, and the selection is pretty rigorous. Which ensures the quality of graduates and the willingness of companies to hire such graduates.
At the moment I'm a full stack developer coding in Elm and Haskell which, I would say, is quite the testimony to the solid coding fundamentals I was able to build on grow on.
I love my job as a developer and am very grateful to Codaisseur for setting up such a well rounded and fast paced course. -
Maudy Morien
Made it possible to switch career
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Before I became a developer I was an optician. I really wanted to switch careers but I did not have a bachelor degree for it. Codaisseur really tests your wits and potential you have instead of degree. I was afraid that I wouldn't be smart enough to follow the bootcamp but the teachers really pull you trough this extensive and steep learning curve.
I got a job the same day that I received my certificate and still working there with a permanent contract since November. I am mainly a backend developer working with the newest stack and a valued member in my team. I am really gratefull that I joined Codaisseur, and got a change to change my life and use their network. Would recommend it to anybody that wants to get into development. -
Ivan Hu
Highly recommend
I made the decision to change my career path into web development. I didn't know where to start, but Codaisseur gave me the feeling that it would provide me a robust base of knowledge that I would need to start working as a developer.
It is safe to say that my expectations have been met. I have been working as a developer for 1.5 years now and most of it is thanks to Codaisseur. -
Dilip
Opened gates to the world of Web development!
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An intensive course designed to take you from a basic level to a position where you are able to create what comes to your mind. There is always a lot to learn as a web developer but, the course will launch you on a path where you can develop yourself, which is a very nice thing. The methodology mixes theory and practice well with good support from the teachers who, want you to succeed!. I had a nice experience and would recommend it, if you are serious about being a developer. Good luck! -
Gordon
Great school, jump-started my development career
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I joined Codaisseur after completing my master's because I was officially done with academia and I wanted to become a web developer. And it was one of the best decisions I've ever made.
The 11-week bootcamp was difficult, I'd say even more so than the mphil I did before in some aspects. It was really 9:30 - 6 every single day and I could only catch my breath on the weekends, but I chose to study anyways because it was very easy to fall behind given the speed and intensity of the course--and trust me--you do not want to fall behind. I have never worked this hard in my life and the hard work really paid off.
In retrospect, the program is exactly what people need when they feel unsatisfied with their current endeavors and are in search of something more fulfilling. It is a trial by fire that will challenge candidates on multiple levels. In the end, you'd come through with a growth mindset and a much better work ethic. The more you're pushed, the further you'd go.
Web development is a hot property in the market right now since virtually every company is undergoing digitalization. Among the many alumni, 3 graduates now work in de Bijenkorf e-commerce team, which exemplifies some wonderful opportunities the course opens for you (given you are good enough to pass).
The programming teachers are experienced, passionate, and patient; and in the end there is a one-week career accelerator program that shapes you up to be a competent job hunter.
10/10 would do that again. -
Mirtles
Great opportunity
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Codaisseur was very, very challenging - very little sleep, needing to be super focused, and learning new things every single day for 10 weeks all take their toll. Yet I would do it all again in a heartbeat.
With React and NodeJS as the main focus, the curriculum was perfectly adapted to the current market. Lessons were fast-paced but well structured, with ample support from excellent teachers and teaching assistants. Questions were always encouraged, and feedback for homework and project-based work was clear and constructive. The job search workshops in week 11 were excellent as well, as were the meetings and feedback sessions with the career advisor afterwards. I found a job within a month.
I personally had no coding experience before joining, and now I'm quite comfortable building a web application with a basic server to support it. If someone had told me what I'd be able to do after just 10 weeks, I would've probably laughed at them. Sorry, hypothetical person. You were right and I was wrong.
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Daniel Verstegen
One of the best choices of my life
Great atmosphere. Bar is set at the right level. Tough and fun. -
Annie
Student
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Despite completing all pre-learnings as requested, and all course and homework, they said I failed to keep up. Only those could keep up who got external help or have prior programming experience. For those worth to try, for others waisted time. Before judging, I am a mensa member. I just believed the advertisement. But at least I learned that how to use github. I did not gave up, I am looking for the next course more careful. -
Giulio Gallerini
Web Developer
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At Codaisseur you will meet people that care about coding but not only, you will also encounter fantastic personalities ready to help, have a chat or drink a beer at any moment. I already had a computer science background when I joined Codaisseur and their course put me up to speed with the latest tech out there and I had already found a job the day after I finished the course!
If you are a person with motivation and passion for coding but you don't know how to start your adventure in the real world.. then Codaisseur it's the place for you!Thank you guys!
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Jaosn
Excellent course
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Really enjoyed the personal approach of the Codaisseur Academy. You're not just a number but they'll invest time to coach and assist you where possible. Even afterwards They'll look over your resume's and cover letters (if you want them to) etc. Also The course pretty much lets you be productive at a company from the get go. Even if the stack is slightly different the approach will let you ask the right questions and though you're not as fast as the more experienced developers (who've often been working on the project for longer) you are an asset from the first moment onwards.
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Mojgan Zolghadr
Codaisseur helped to make it possible
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When I first played with the idea of making a career switch from fashion to coding, I never imagined it would be such a smooth process. Don’t get me wrong, the bootcamp was a great challenge for me. But from the very start the team at Codaisseur has been tremendously supportive, to all of us. Their support gave me the confidence to push trough and finish the bootcamp (with a bit of sweat and tears and long nights). I gained so much knowledge and experience. I always felt that the team was genuinely wanted me to so succeed. Their involvement in this sense was very valuable to me.
A few months down the line I’m proud to say I’m at the start of my new job in IT, within an organisation I feel very much connected to. Thank you Codaisseur for making this possible!! -
EvaP
If you love web development, you'll love the Academy
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As you can gather from the other reviews, things will get intense: make sure to come to an introduction night and know what you are getting yourself into. You'll need to be the type of learner who fairs well with obsession, because for eight weeks, you'll live and breathe web development. Not only will there be an insane amount of coding, but there will be a lot of attention to teamwork and web development as a job as well. Don't worry, there's good coffee and a whole community of students and teachers to help you through. For me, this was the perfect program to change careers in a fast and affordable way. It's a rollercoaster, but you'll be amazed at what you'll have achieved in eight weeks.
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Jan-Sijmen Zwarts
Thinking about programming?
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If you feel programming could be your new gig, Codaisseur is definitely the fastest way to get there. And by getting there I mean:
- Gain >500 hrs of coding experience
- Learn to build your own web applications from the ground up using the latest frameworks and technologies
- Kickstart your career with hands-on coding experience with real life projects
All in all, it has been a worthwhile 2 months and I feel completely on track for a career as junior web developer now.
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Adriana
Best decision if you're thinking about a career change to tech
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I entered Codaisseur Academy with no knowledge in programming or anything related. The amount of stuff you learn in just two months is amazing and the chances of landing into a tech job afterwards are great. Be prepared for a lot of hard work, though.
The teachers are very experienced, patient and willing to assist you with any problem you have - not only related to coding but also related to the stress and insecurities of a career change. The class is small enough for you to know everyone, so in the end the students also help each other a lot. The course itself seems to be improving at every batch (I was part of batch 5).
It's been now almost one year since I finished the course and I am currently working as a full stack developer (I got a job around 3 months after finishing the course). I got hired to work with technologies that I have never seen before, but Codaisseur Academy did a great job in teaching me how to learn new stuff too!
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Florestan
The no nonsense approach
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Codaisseur’s no-nonsense approach focuses your attention on the essential skills and best practices that make you a productive developer with tons of practical experience.
Pros:
After exactly six month since setting foot in the Codaisseur boot camp I landed a job as a front end developer. Compared to other juniors I stack up quite nicely, because I’m well versed in the basics, slightly more experienced in algorithmic thinking and usually more well rounded in the team work aspect of software development. No prior development experience, all thanks to this course (and lots and lots of hard work, so be prepared for those all-nighters)
Cons:
This is only IF you pass the assessments and graduate (we had about 60% pass rate): You do not get any leads or job opportunities from the school itself, you’re pretty much on your own looking for a job after graduation. They do help setting up your post academy portfolio, LinkedIn and advise you on presentation and professionalism. They send you weekly update forms to keep track of your application process and if you don’t manage to send out two applications per week, you risk owing the remainder of the school fee personally. To be fair, my current employer covers my fee and finding a job is not hard at the moment :)
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Michal
It's an amazing chance to change your career
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I've been in the batch #2 and the whole program was still developing at that point - this meant that the curriculum was still going through some iterations and also the teacher pool was different from today. Since I kept frequenting the office/classroom for some time after I graduated, I know first-hand that a lot has changed since and that it is all going the right direction, though.
Subject-wise, you probably wanna do some research as to what technology stack you wanna learn, we were focusing mainly on Ruby on Rails and, to my knowledge, only a small minority of my classmates ended up actually working with it. On the other hand, most of us did end up landing a job and with the foundations obtained during the course were able to learn the new technology.
As for the outcome, you get what you invest - in the matter of time and effort - and Codaisseur is well capable of providing an environment that will help you succeed; don't expect them to do the work for you, though - and this applies also to the job-hunting process. Finishing the course successfully is only one part of the whole process and, while Codaisseur will try and help you with finding the job, in my case this process took almost 6 months and from big part was fuelled by reaching out to prospective employers on my own. I also found it very difficult to convince companies to pay some extra to re-pay my course so ended up paying the course back myself (I still think it's well worth it given what I get in return - an amazing job that I enjoy). During this whole process guys at Coddaiseur did not give up on me, though, and I'm thankful for that.
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Claudia
Hard work, but so worth it
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I've never worked as hard for anything as for this, but it was well worth it! I am now a front-end developer thanks to the Codaisseur program and couldn't be happier with it. I would really recommend Codaisseur to anyone who wants to switch career or get a head start in programming. The curriculum is extensive, they go fast, and it's exhausting, but that's what it takes to get where I am at in just two months. The classes are a great size, everyone there is motivated and it is great to work on projects together as well as on individual assignments. -
Maurice Smorenberg
Center for knowledge and networking
Codaisseur is great place to kickstart your career as a Developer. Thanks to the many topics they offer during the course you get the opportunity to learn fast and discover what you can do best. Not in the last place Codaisseur is a hub for connections and inspiration.
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Mariano Racca
The Future
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Like most of the other reviews, I took the course and loved it's intense pace and friendly environment. Then I graduated and got a job relatively quickly (in my case I wasn't even looking for one). So it is great for that.
Unlike (most of) the other reviews, I was one of the first courses (3rd I believe) and I stuck around because I was curious of how the academy grew and the new graduates (also because I kept learning even after I graduated). As someone who looked into the future of the Academy and experienced it firsthand, I saw how they cared and improved very rapidly from course to course, even day to day. Nowadays, they learn a lot more newer and updated things and the style has grown even more efficient and friendly than it was before.I see a bright future in this academy and I reccomend you be part of what learning should be like. You might even see me around at advanced class.
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Stefan Kollaart
Getting job-ready in 2 months
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When you start programming for the first time, things are really hard. There's so much information out there, and to not get overwhelmed is really hard.
At Codaisseurs development bootcamp, you get an package that's build for people who are starting. You get all the right information you need at that point in the bootcamp, which give you a clear path and the confidence to create something awesome.
The fact that you're with a group of other people who are working their asses off doing the same thing, is really cool. It's also really helpfull that post-bootcamp, that community of teachers and students is still there to help you out.
I loved my instructors, they know what you're going through and will help you when you get stuck. Not by giving you the answer, but by pushing you in the right direction.
I would recommend everyone with interest in programming to join Codaisseurs bootcamp. You will not be disappointed.
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Sander
Great academy!
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Codaisseur is your best bet if you're ever considering a career switch into web development. Working on group projects teaches is one of the things you won't be able to learn by yourself, and might be the most valuable skill taught at Codaisseur.
Teachers are experienced, both in programming and teaching people how to code. The course covers basic principles as well as more advanced design patterns. Most of all, learning how to learn programming is a very important aspect of the course.
Many students go on to find jobs working in completely different stacks from what's been taught at Codaisseur, and have learned how to pick these stacks up and become productive developers very fast.
Most of all, the support given by Codaisseur throughout and after the course has been invaluable to kickstarting my career as a web developer. I wouldn't have been able to make it without them!
A good combination of motivation, time and ability to learn quickly is required. If you have these things, I can definitely recommend Codaisseur to anyone wanting to get into web development.
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Marcia
Best decision ever!
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I quit my job to start my adventure at Codaisseur without previous programming knowledge. I needed a way to improve my chances to get a better job, so a colleague suggested me this training program. Not only I learned a great deal about coding but I also met an incredible group of people. In less than a month after graduating from Codaisseur I interviewed with three different companies and now I'm about to sign a contract and start a new adventure. Thanks Codaisseur team! -
Lee
Probably one of the best decisions I've ever made
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Programming is something I've had an interest in for a while, but I found that online learning didn't really get me to where I needed to be (employed!). When I saw the Codaisseur program online, I signed up immediately for the March cohort (after digging around online for any blogs about people's experiences on the course – and, yes, I kept my own blog too at leefreeman.xyz if you want to read in more detail!)
Other reviews give details of the curriculum (Ruby/Rails, Javascript/React, essentially), so I won't go into great detail but, suffice to say, there's some cutting edge stuff there, the teachers were excellent and the reader (online course materials) is a really valuable resource to refer back to.
After completing the course, I found it quite easy to set up some interviews and accepted a position that I'll be starting next week (i.e. 5/6 weeks after the end of the course) with a company that saw me presenting at the end-of-course demo night.
If you're considering signing up, remember that this is an intensive course. It will take up all your time for 2 months and you will be challenged (so start doing some preparatory work now!).
I would not hesitate to recommend Codaisseur to someone who is committed to becoming a web developer.
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Iris
Without Codaisseur I wouldn't have been able to switch my career in no-time
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In February 2016, I took part in the very first 8-week development class. It was the best thing that could've happened to me. I wanted to switch my carreer and become a professional web developer, but I struggled achieving that on my own (besides work and family).
The program delivered exactly what I was looking for: learning to code, use development-workflow tools and current best-practices used at companies. I had a blast!
And the big bonus: I landed a great job as a web developer within a month after graduation.
Thanks to my employer I also joined their 2-year Junior Acceleration Program. These have helped me to grasp other languages, tools and concepts (Elasticsearch, API design, Elixir, advanced sql, React Native) quicker and therefore helped me in my day-to-day work.
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Sam
Kickstarting your IT career
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With my background I was already able to find a job in development, but instead I chose to learn more about Ruby on Rails at Codaisseur. In 8 weeks I learned more than two years of college. Everyone attending to the traineeship was there to learn more about programming and everyone motivated each other to make the best projects.
If you want to do this traineeship aswell, I strongly recommend you to know for sure if programming is something you love. If you do, this traineeship will be epic.
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Sarah
from 0 to full stack in 2 months
This course meets every definition of an intensive program and is incredibly challenging, but the rewards are well worth it. I came in with no previous experience, but after a lot of time and hard work I can confidently say that I feel ready to attack the job market.
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Robert Hopman
The best in NL
The information is up to date (cutting edge in most cases). The teachers are patient and experienced. A lot of good projects to apply what you learn. The learning curve is specified to your own needs after the first weeks. Open 24/7. Oh and free coffee if you're interested in that.
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Anonymous
Not for inexperienced people
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When I decided to study at codaisseur 2 years ago, they advertised their program as "No experience or previous knowledge needed, in 10 weeks become a software engineer".
And this is a huge lie.
I had no experience in coding before joining the bootcamp, but I have always been quite tech-savvy. And there I was, just on the first day we learned about git, the terminal, HTML and CSS. All in the span of 8 hours. How would anyone expect somebody with "no previous coding knowledge" to get familiar with all these 4 topics in just one day? The second day we were already busy with javascript, no need to say I was falling behind the program from the first day and that there was a huge gap of knowledge. At the end of the second week we were already busy with React.
I did my university years working full time at the same time, and that was not half stressfull as were these weeks at Codaisseur. An insane amount of information is thrown at you, with no time to process it and to properly learn. Learning, especially in coding, must be a process of changing your way of thinking and to "mold" your head. Not to type code without really understanding what you are doing.
I decided to stop the bootcamp on the third week. In the exit interview I mentioned what I just wrote referring to the "no experience needed", to which they answered "no experience needed is very subjective", no, my friends, no experience is no experience, period.
I felt like a failure. It took me one year to gather the motivation again to start learning coding, and this time I did it on my own, with Udemy courses and online resources, learning at my own path and really letting the new information sink in and changing my way of thinking code-wise. Now I am working as a junior developer.
After doing the online courses I could see the value of the Codaisseur program, but this was because I already had some knowledge about it. And to be honest, if you already feel comfortable with coding, I wouldn't say the program is worth going into debt for it. Just keep learning on your own.
Summarizing:
+ Good teachers
- Terrible structure of the program, rushing to learn and you end up learning nothing and hating code before knowing what is actually code
- Misleading marketing strategies, or in other words, lying strategies. "No experience needed, but, actually.... "Lisa of Techmongers
Admissions&Employment
Sep 24, 2021
Hey! Lisa here, from the Recruitment Team. Thanks for leaving us your feedback, even if I would have appreciated hearing it right after and not more than 2 years later.
I'm sorry to hear that you were unable to keep up with the pace of our Bootcamp, and had to drop out at week 3. As you know, our business model 'No cure - No pay' means that as you weren't able to graduate, we did not charge you for the 3 weeks of education you received here with us.
Codaisseur is a very intense Bootcamp, and we're very proud of having been able to help over 500+ students transition into a new career as a Developer in just such a short time.
During our communication, admissions interviews, and also our events, we stress the fact that this course is not a walk in the park. It is called a Bootcamp for a reason :) We will not hold your hand, but we will train you to become a full-stack web developer in a short time, giving you the hands-on skills you need to get hired with a company you love, and where you can start adding value from day 1!
- > "How would anyone expect somebody with "no previous coding knowledge" to get familiar with all these 4 topics in just one day?" - This is a great point! As soon as a student goes through our tough admission process, they gain access to a short course that will prepare them for day one.
- > "I was falling behind the program from the first day" - Our teachers, coaches and mentors are always available, it's a pity that you never let us know that you struggling so much. We could have helped you put together a study plan, and assisted you to overcome this hurdle!
Asking for help isn't always easy, but it is essential to know when and how to reach out when you are stuck.
TL;DR - Don't take my word for it, just head over to LinkedIn and check out all of our graduates. Their backgrounds ( professional sport, finance, biology, Horeca, customer support ...etc) and where they are working today are all publicly available.
I wish you all the best of luck with your new career in Development, and if you'd like to stop by for a coffee and chat you know where to find us :)
cheers,
Lisa -
Anonymous
Job NOT Guaranteed - Money Making Scam - Beware Codaisseur
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Tl;dr - Please avoid this scam/school. Freecodecamp is free. If you really want to do a coding bootcamp then join another one... and always read the contract.
What seems too good to be true is probably too good to be true. *Invisible conditions attached. What Codaisseur's advertising so proudly says appears more like a burden once you read the contract. According to the contract you cannot go anywhere out during the job search period. You cannot get sick. Yes you cannot get sick. You have to be spending 36 hours applying for jobs per week. Even during corona period if you cannot pay for your accomodation or need to find a part time job you are not allowed to do that. I am sure this is not allowed by the Dutch government.
Unfortunately you only do receive the contract when you have completed a post-application interview and paid the 800 euros fee to 'reserve your seat'. In the interview I was told the below 2 things which turned out to be untrue.
A - My batch had a graduation rate of 50% which leads one to believe that Codaisseur has been fudging their stats for a while. Their model does not want to help you which is what a school should do. Instead they focus on eliminating those who fail tests every week so that only those who can either learn a lot very well or those who already had prior coding experience remain. For both these groups of people it would have been wiser to avoid the school altogether in hindsight.
B - Illusions are everywhere. There is no such network of business partners. Since I graduated for almost a month I had to request this list multiple times from the Codaisseur staff. When they finally sent it to me I was shocked to see what looked like a very amateur school project of business contacts. These contacts were made by students who had graduated before and landed jobs. During the interview Codaisseur pushes students to advertise their employing of said student as a business connection. In reality this is more of a burden on both the company and the student. 90% of companies I applied to did not respond to me and I suspect it is because they already know about Codaisseur's predatory model.
The only pro is most of and not all the teachers. Most of the teachers are qualified and knowledgeable. Unfortunately the business model of the school is to churn out so called graduates every month like a factory which leaves the teachers overworked. They are unable to give individual attention and answer questions which is much needed at a school.
The cons are everything else. After graduation we had a horrible career guidance week which seemed very infantile and silly. The only thing we were doing is wasting our time with it. For a whole week we were forced to attend for the whole day and if we did not we were threatened with a bill by the team below.
The Codaisseur graduate team as they call themselves is one of the most unhelpful business centred teams I have come across in both my professional and educational career. The team has two lead members whose sole purpose is to find a reason to blame the student for their issues in obtaining a job after graduation. After graduation I had the misfortune of being cordial with these two people and sharing my progress. However they did nothing but point out mistakes in their so called checklist for the job search period which were not mentioned anywhere in the contract. I believe the team has the impression that they can bully people into accepting any job by threatening them with a bill for the whole course which is 8000 to 12000 euros. Even if the job is paying lower than the industry standard they force you to accept it which goes against what they advertise and what they constantly tell us. If you do not accept it you are constantly threatened with calls and emails.
Importantly there is no effort from Codaisseur's side during the job search. You are the only person searching for a job with no help unlike promised. You are using your own contacts and skills to find it. Even though they promise you help they do not help you. In the whole job search period which can be either 3 or 5 months which I will come to in the next paragraph I only received 2 job leads from the graduate team members and both these leads were something they found on the internet. They did not have any connection to the companies and they acted as if this was helping us. In the contract by saying that Codaisseur will do everything within reason to help you find a job. They have done absolutely nothing for me and almost all of my classmates. Being Dutch and still not being able to find a job in my own country would only be possible if there was something in my resume that makes people not want to respond and that was Codaisseur in my education.
About the 5 month contract. During Corona we were asked to sign a 5 month contract which guaranteed us online extra job search assistance and a discount of 4000 euros on the tuition. Since most of us needed the assistance most of us signed it. As I already wrote in the end there was no help from Codaisseur. I spoke to many students from other batches and most of them had a similar experience. A lot of people despite not finding a job or losing a job during corona were given a 12000 euros bill to be paid by the next month because of some reasons that do not exist in the contract. This is why reading the contract becomes important. This is not only unprofessional on their part but can be legally hazardous for a company as reckless as Codaisseur. The same graduation team forced me to accept any job that came my way and also threatened me with these same consequences even though I did everything that was required by the contract. Not surprisingly I did not have a single interview despite applying for more than 150 applications. This leads me to believe that they are threatening most of their students with debt unless they do anything they say which technically amounts to bullying and in a more legal manner extortion.
A school is supposed to support their students but the behavior of Codaisseur employees showed that this company was a scam at its finest. Stay clear of Codaisseur. I really hope someone reports them to the ministerie van onderwijs (ministery of education in the Netherlands).Lisa of Techmongers
Admissions&Employment
Dec 22, 2020
Hi there, Lisa here from the Recruitment team.
Thanks for sharing your feedback with us.
First off, let me just say that I am sorry to hear about your experience here with us. We hold ourselves to very high standards, and our partner network has hired over 400 of our students for this reason.
2020 has been a rough year for everyone, our students & graduates included. During the first lock-down, we saw a lot of companies here in the Netherlands issue a hiring freeze. Quite a number of our graduates, that were in their final rounds of interviews, were told that the position was closed, and we also had some alumni come back to us after their contracts weren't renewed.
Before the pandemic, our hiring rate was over 90%, but between March - June we saw that number drop to 60%.
I am very proud to say that since September our hiring rate has reached 90% again, and our most recent class to graduate has a 100% hiring rate! This just shows that companies in the Netherlands have realised that Junior Developers are needed now more than ever before! Our grads possess all the cutting-edge skills & knowledge to add value to a company from day 1.
I'd like to respond to some of your comments in the review, as they are very misleading and/or false.
We are very selective in our admissions process, only 30% of all applicants are accepted under our no cure - no pay model. During your admission interview, you showed great motivation, talent and grit and were accepted under this model.
This means that if you hadn't have graduated, or if you hadn't have found employment during the job search period, we would've waived all of your tuition fee.
''Unfortunately you only do receive the contract ...''---
After you pass the admission test, and have been accepted, you receive your contract immediately. Our contracts are all in English, and we ask that you reach out to us if there is anything you are not sure about. *Only* after signing your contract will you receive the €800 invoice for the admission fee.
''You cannot get sick'' --
Since our course is fast-paced and intense if you miss more than 2 days ( for whatever reason; illness/personal issues etc) we evaluate whether or not you should repeat some parts of the course. This year, in particular, we've seen many students recourse because of illness/stress or personal issues. Our goals are completely aligned, if you don't graduate or don't find a job then we waive all of your tuition fee! Our teachers and staff do everything within their power to help you learn and find a job.
To ease some of the pressure from our students studying with us during the lockdown, we also offered a €4000 discount on your tuition fee.
You are correct when you say that you have to do all the hard work to find your dream job. We will never put you in a job, this is always up to the graduate to find the vacancies and companies they fit best with. However, we are with you the whole way, organising workshops, speed-dates, hiring events and much more. We are in constant contact with our hiring network. Very often we get requests from them looking to hiring a junior, and these leads are shared directly with our graduates.
Since September 2020 we have held six hiring events, with over 20 companies, which led to many graduates getting hired!
I would love to continue this conversation. We truly believe that feedback is the only way to grow! Send me an email and we can set up a phone call to discuss any other points you may have.
cheers,
Lisa
Team Codaisseur -
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TL;DRPositive:- you feel pushed to learn since you committed by signing a contract
- the teacher generally knowledgeable and good people
- you got technical support
- you would learn more from doing 3 Udemy courses than here in 11 weeks
- the teaching quality is terrible, especially for the price
- the don't care about you, your project, or whatever you do; you have to be very bad at programming to be able to "fail" and not pay
Sum: The whole school is a waste of money and time. Since they don't guarantee work, just urge you to get one, so they get paid, you way better off learning from the much higher quality online sources, and maybe hire a coding coach/career coach when you feel ready, for less money.
When I was researching boot camps to learn programming, Codaisseur looked so good. Good reviews, Amsterdam is a fantastic city; everything seemed OK. Entry "interview" was a bit strange; they accepted everybody to the school, which is OK. You got access to an online site, mostly written material with some videos and barely any challenges. During "teaching" time, a teacher reads up the material, solves the problem, and you should do the same material rest of the day. The academy is 11 weeks, which is divided up the following:
1-2: Basic JavaScript/React; the most advanced stuff is how to use react-router.
3: Assessment week. Monday/Tuesday, you got a practice assessment, which you should solve alone but can get help. Wednesday/Thursday, you got a real assessment that you must submit - the same as the practice one. Friday, you wait, and a teacher will tell you if you passed or not. You might be able to get into a "workshop" on this day, which was terrible.
4-5: NodeJS and Redux; in the end, you should write basic REST API and use Redux. Teaching was still mostly reading up written material.
6: Assessment week. Same structure as week 3, but you have to write rest API and use redux.
7: "New technology" week, where you got one day for TypeScrip, GraphQL, React Native. Even more shallow teaching than before, you have a look at the material
8-9: Portfolio Project weeks. You have to make your portfolio project which after two weeks, somebody checks for 5 mins and says if it's OK or not. During the two weeks, the school's interaction is a daily call in the morning, where they only check that you are there, and that's it.
10: Group project week: they split you into groups, you should do some program together. They provide a topic, but after that, not much shit is given. You got average daily 5 minutes check-in from the teacher.
11: Carrier Accelerator week, where you get one technical interview, one formal interview, and they look at your CV and decide if it's good or not. Mine had some typoes that nobody noticed.
After week 11, you get once a week check-in from the school to see if you got a job yet or not. It is the only part I see where they give a shit since after you get your first job, you owe them the full tuition. -
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At Codaisseur there are a lot of hidden costs, fake advertising, and promises. Though Codaisseur allowed me to change career paths in a short amount of time, I am unsatisfied with the company and feel lied to.
Of the 7 teachers, 6 of them are outstanding. They are always willing to help, motivate you and during the entire course, they gave me the feeling that they wanted me to succeed. Unfortunately, the teachers are constantly understaffed, you can notice that they are overwhelmed by the workload and they are unable to answer everyone's questions due to understaffing and a lack of time.
After passing the final assignment there is a week called 'Career Accelerator' which was, to put it nicely, a joke. The quality was poor, the career advisor was unorganised and didn't seem to care if you'd get a job or not.
During the interview process, it was promised that Codaisseur would introduce you to their partners. In the end, not one student has been introduced to their so-called 'partners'. There is also NO job guarantee at all. YOU are the one who has to apply for the jobs, Codaisseur doesn't do anything to help you. You have a weekly call with their staff, but it's more to check if you're doing what they want you to do. They don't give advice (besides things like 'contact people on Linkedin', something every student does from day one...). We were promised job leads, the closest to those 'job leads' was that, after a few weeks of no serious job prospects, people were recommended by Codaisseur to take an (underpaid) internship.
Again, there is no job guarantee whatsoever. There is a staggering amount of students that graduated months ago, do everything in their power to get a job, but are still unemployed. Codaisseur doesn't seem to do anything to help them besides the 'weekly calls'.
The course is fast-paced and extremely stressful. People dropped out of the course due to breakdowns from stress. These people still had to pay the whole fee of €10.802.
There are hidden costs. Codaisseur claims that you only pay the €800 admission fee and that the rest (€10.802) will be paid by your future employer. This is a lie. YOU are the one who pays the €10.802. Maybe your employer pays it directly to Codaisseur, but it will be subtracted from your salary, so in the end, you pay the €298 per month yourself, for 29 months.
Another rather strange thing: they let the students do their sales talk with potential employers. The students have to tell them about Codaisseur, they have to tell them about the 11K debt that they have (and that the company will have to pay, if they hire them), they have to tell the company about becoming a partner of Codaisseur. Lots of students decide to never say anything about the fee to their potential employers because often employers will turn you down, simply because they don't want to hire a junior (who still needs a lot of training by their future employer) with a fee obligation of €10.802.
During Codaisseur you have the feeling that you're supported and valued, but as soon as you graduate the course, the focus switches to the new students that just started their course.
Another thing: Codaisseur claims that they are the #1 Coding Academy of the Netherlands. This does not mean that they are the best in The Netherlands, it just means that they are the first. -
Anonymous
Awesome school!
I had a great time learning with Codaisseur! Teachers, support, everything was just on point! -
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I finished the bootcamp a year ago and here's pros and cons:
Pros:
- You will learn a lot and will have hands on experience with coding
- You will build a couple of small apps which will give you a good idea what you're gonna do in future.
- In comparison to other bootcamps it's cheaper for the students
- There is help available from teachers and staff, not always though
- If you really want to be a junior developer and you already coded for a while and built some small apps this course can open doors
- If you like to be in IT industry in general, Having done this course increase your chances
Cons:
- Misleading advertisement: There is NO job guarantee! You will have to apply for jobs yourself and do everything so NO job garantee. What they later say is if you don't get a job after certain months, then you don't need to pay the fee, but there are a lof of IFs and BUTs about it.
- Carriculum had big gaps. The first part (Ruby) was better orginised and teached, Second half with React wasn't orginised properly and students had so many issues trying to learn. We had only 2 days on whole Javascript which wasn't slightly enough for the future projects.
- It is a very fast-paced and stressful course. It is nothing similar to a university or college course, We had people with near nervous breakdowns and stress-related drop outs, so if you can not cope with a lot of stress this course is not for you.
- No real job support: We were told that we're gonna get job leads but in reality we didn't get any.
- Under their contract you can not work with recruiters so it will limit your chances.
- If you leave the course for any reasons for instance stress, you still have to pay the whole fee: 9000 euros.
- Employment rate is debatable: Although some people got jobs but many people still didn't manage, and out of those who got the job many where not offered a contract after probation month.
- Evaluation is very arbitrary, You don't get marks, It's mostly based on how the instructor feels about you rather your real abilities in comparison to rest of the class. You can be kicked out of the course in any day of the course. Two people who i worked with in group projects and were better coders than me, were kicked out by saying you're not good enough.
- Graduation rate: In additon to my own experience i had contact with batches after and before me and graduation rate was around 50% so almost half the students were either kicked out or droped out.
- You're tied up for 2 years so if your employer doesn't agree to pay the fee which happens often, you have to decline the job offer or pay from your own pocket.
Advice:
- Prepare yourself at least for more than 3 months before the course learning about languages you're gonna work in the bootcamp and make sure you build some apps yourself. Try some online coding courses and for sure Codeacademy basic courses are not enough. You have to do more, people who did better were the one who coded a while before the course, People who were kicked out were generally the one who hoped they're gonna learn it there.
- Read the contract carefully and make sure you know all about it.
- If you want to stay in the course, In your project reviews with your instructors do not criticize anything about your work or the course, As the evaluation is quite random, If you say you liked it and you're trying hard, the like it, if you say you're struggeling or need some help, you'lll be out soon. They don't like any feedback whatsoever.
- You won't have any time left during this course even weekends you'll be working, so make sure you're fully available.