Grace Hopper Program
The Grace Hopper Program is a 17-week, immersive software engineering program for women with no upfront tuition cost in New York City (13-weeks of the course will be on campus). Named for pioneer computer scientist Grace Murray Hopper, the program is driven by three values: education, opportunity, and mentorship. By employing a deferred tuition model, students only pay tuition once they secure a job after graduation. Grace Hopper aims to lower the barrier to entry and accept qualified candidates who cannot afford the upfront cost of a coding bootcamp. Once graduates land a job, they pay $19,610 tuition in installments over 9 months.
Applicants must be women (the team defines "women" as anyone female identifying -- including transgender, genderqueer, and non-binary) who are passionate about coding and have the drive to succeed in an immersive environment. The immersive course is not designed for pure beginners, but if an applicant's technical skills are not advanced enough to pass the coding assessment, then the Grace Hopper team can provide learning resources to prepare you for the interview.
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Minimum Skill Level Advanced-beginner Prep Work Includes a 10-hr prep workshop. Not required, but highly recommended to help students get the most out of class. Placement Test No Interview No
In PersonFull Time40 Hours/week17 Weeks
Start Date April 20, 2020 Cost $19,910 Class size N/A Location New York CityThe Grace Hopper Program is an immersive coding bootcamp in New York City exclusively for women+-identifying students. To reduce financial barriers for women+ students of all backgrounds, we offer deferred tuition, which means women train now and pay tuition only once they’ve found full-time employment in software engineering. The Grace Hopper Program fosters a supportive and diverse community to make tech more accessible for all.
Deposit $3,000 Tuition Plans Grads pay $19,910 in installments over 9 months - deposit is counted toward this amount. Payments begin at the end of a graduate's first month of employment. If no work is found within 12 months of graduating, no tuition is owed. Scholarship $1,000 Ada Lovelace Scholarship $1,000 Edie Windsor Scholarship for gender nonconforming individuals & LGBTQ+ women.
Minimum Skill Level Advanced-beginner/Intermediate programming skills Prep Work Four week-long remote Foundations class precedes 13 weeks on-campus Placement Test Yes Interview Yes
More Start DatesApril 20, 2020 - New York City Apply by March 1, 2020
In PersonFull Time40 Hours/week17 Weeks
Start Date April 20, 2020 Cost $17,910 Class size N/A Location ChicagoThe Grace Hopper Track is a deferred-tuition option for women within the co-ed Software Engineering Immersive program taught at Fullstack Academy’s Chicago campus. Women at the Fullstack Chicago campus have access to exclusive mentorship and community-building opportunities, and pay tuition only once they've found full-time employment in software engineering. The remaining elements of the Fullstack education—curriculum, instructors, career services—are shared across the entire student body, and are not specific to the Grace Hopper Track at Fullstack Chicago.
Deposit $3,000 Tuition Plans Grads pay $17,910 in installments over 9 months - deposit is counted toward this amount. Payments begin at the end of a graduate's first month of employment. If no work is found within 12 months of graduating, no tuition is owed. Scholarship Tuition in Chicago includes a built-in $2,000 scholarship to reduce costs from $19,910 to $17,910. Also available: $1,000 Ada Lovelace Scholarship $1,000 Edie Windsor Scholarship for gender nonconforming individuals & LGBTQ+ women
Minimum Skill Level Advanced-beginner/Intermediate programming skills Prep Work Four week-long remote Foundations class precedes 13 weeks on-campus Placement Test Yes Interview Yes
More Start DatesApril 20, 2020 - Chicago Apply by March 1, 2020
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- A Great Program with a Startup Environment- 8/13/2017Ruth N. • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
** Please note - I have incredibly high standards. Overall Grace Hopper (GH) / Fullstack Academy (FSA) did an amazing job. In general, they need to improve their organization skills. The school is awesome at teaching coding. They just need to polish the machine so things run like clockwork.
To be admitted into GH you must:
- Be female identifying
- Complete an online application
- Pass an online coding assessment
- Code live via a Skype interview
The best part about this process: GH has teaching fellows (former students) conduct the Skype interview and make the admissions decisions. Therefore, it’s not a decision made from a moneymaking perspective. It’s a decision made by former students who want the program to be great for all who attend.
The program consists of 4 phases. There is a 1-week break between junior and senior phase.
Foundations - Online distance learning course (4 weeks)
- Good to know - There are checkpoints (tests) you must pass before you are admitted to the immersive program. You are assigned a mentor (GH / FSA alumni) to assist you during this time.
- My experience - I worked during the first 2 weeks, which was quite difficult. The last 2 weeks, when I wasn’t working, I had a lot of free time. I felt like the material presented during this part of the program was appropriate. You should revisit this material during your job search.
- Improvement - Let students know ahead of time (during the acceptance phase) about the checkpoints. A lot of people quit jobs to join this program.
Junior Phase - In person, intense learning through lectures and workshops (6 weeks)
- Good to know - This phase will feel like information overload but you do not need to memorize everything (that would be like memorizing the US Tax code). It is meant to expose you to various topics so if you need them in the future, you can search for the answers.
- My experience - I was very overwhelmed during the first week of the program. Once I realized I didn’t have to memorize everything, this phase ran a lot smoother for me. Since I’m an independent person, pair programming every day was difficult for me but it helped me see different points of view. The instructors and teaching fellows were friendly, willing to help, and not afraid to tell us how things really worked (no fake positivity).
- Improvement - Students may be extremely stressed during the first part of the program. State up-front (before the first workshop) that the workshops are not meant to be finished.
Senior Phase - In person, intense learning through project building, career services training, and CTO lectures.
- Good to know - There are 4 projects during this phase (Tech Talk, Group eCommerce Site, Personal Project, Final Group Project). I recommend finishing your tech talk during the 1-week break (before senior phase starts).
- My experience - Because of all the pair programming in junior phase, it was easier for me to work on group projects during this phase. I had a great time working on my personal project because it gave me a break from pair programming. I felt like my team built an awesome final project. There were a few arguments, but we worked through them and made a great app. Instructors and teaching fellows were available during this phase but I didn’t utilize them very often. Also, it was really difficult to work on projects and the career services requests.
- Improvement - Don’t change schedules at the last minute. This happened quite often during our senior phase.
Flight - On your own job-hunt with support from career services.
- Good to know - The level of career services support is up to you.
- My experience - I networked with people on LinkedIn, Slack, and at meetups. I filled out tons of applications on many different websites (LinkedIn, Gary’s Guide, and company sites). My result was very favorable. I accepted an offer 1.5 months after graduation. My offer stemmed from completing an online application.
- Improvement - Let students know ahead of time (during the acceptance phase) to plan 3 to 6 months for the job search. A lot of people have to save living expenses to attend this program.
- Incredible experience, amazing teachers- 4/14/2017Nisreen A. • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
I can honestly say that I would be much more lost in my life right now if I hadn’t found Grace Hopper. In my last year of undergrad I was confused about what I wanted to do professionally. After doing a lot of googling and journaling, I decided that I wanted to become a software engineer, and after yet more googling, I became aware of bootcamps. I came across Grace Hopper and it quickly became the only programming school I was interested in. As someone with a social science background I understood and appreciated the motivations behind the creation of a learning environment for female developers. It spoke a lot to the founders' values and the culture of the school in general. And as someone with limited financial resources, I recognized that their deferred tuition model provided an amazing opportunity that I otherwise wouldn’t be able to participate in.
From day 1 to the end, Grace Hopper was a wonderful and incredibly enriching experience. I was surrounded by smart, talented women from all backgrounds, all willing to work together to learn an exciting new skill set. The curriculum was challenging but well-thought out, and our teaching fellows and instructors were always there to answer any questions we had or to remedy any gaps in our knowledge. What's more, the bootcamp really strives to keep its content relevant. Now when I tell people about my tech stack, I often get comments like ‘wow that’s a great one’ or ‘you’re in a really great place then!’ Or even, from other software engineers with more experience than me, ‘you know Redux already?!’
I strongly feel that the Grace Hopper Program at Fullstack Academy has accelerated my professional and personal life by several years and put me a giant step forward in my career. In a short amount of time I was able to learn a challenging and high-demand skill set that I was really interested in. The culture, environment, and the people were all so supportive and amazing. It stands as the number one transformative experience I’ve had in my life, and I think that it’ll be very difficult to supplant it.
I couldn’t have asked for better teachers, a better learning environment, or better outcomes. Even after going through it once already, I would do Grace Hopper all over again right now if I could :)
- Life Changing- 4/14/2017Ashley Riccardi • Web Developer • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
I can easily say that attending Grace Hopper was one of the best professional decisions I’ve ever made.I chose GH specifically because it was focused on creating a welcoming environment for women to become fullstack developers and I am very glad that I did.My fellow classmates were kind and collaborative, the instructors were supportive and demanding, and the curriculum was rigorous. GH gave me the knowledge I needed to be confident in my own problem solving capabilities and my ability to learn deeply and quickly.When I think back on my time at Grace Hopper, I think the thing that really sets it apart is the culture. In addition to being collaborative and welcoming, I never felt like I was just another student - the instructors and the staff were there to give each individual the time and care to make sure that we were in the best possible position to to take full advantage of all the program has to offer. This was also evident during the job search after I graduated; someone was always available to answer a question or help me figure out what to say to an employer.I am amazed and what a turn around my life in general has taken since attending the program - I met wonderful people who I still keep in touch with, I have a great foundation of knowledge for my career, I built some awesome web applications that I am proud of, and I now have an amazing job which I would not have been qualified for otherwise.
- Very Worth It- 4/12/2017Galen Corey • Software Engineer • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
When I began the Grace Hopper program, I was nearing the end of what I could learn on my own and I needed direction. That's exactly what I got. The curriculum was exceedingly relevant - I see many job postings for the exact skills taught there. I am currently using the same ech that I learned at GH in my work as a developer. I learned more than enough to feel confident at my job, even with no previous technical background.
I kept a blog while I was a student and a fellow at the program, which you can read here: https://galencorey.wordpress.com/category/grace-hopper/.
- Pretty much changed my life.- 3/22/2017Y • Full Stack Developer • Student • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
I come from a completely non-technical background. I studied social sciences in college and the last time I took a math class was sometime in high school. I always liked computers and logic, but never thought that software engineering could be for me. But after finishing school I was pretty stuck professionally and so I started thinking about changing my path. I ended up learning some basic coding on my own and then realized it’s something I really enjoyed and could actually do full time.
I started looking at coding bootcamps and when I learned about Grace Hopper I knew I found the right place. As someone from a non-technical background I knew it would be easier for me to learn how to code around other women, and I think I was right. For me, Grace Hopper was the perfect mixture of a supportive and constructive environment with a rigorous curriculum. There was definitely pressure, the pace is very quick and for a lot of us there was a lot on the line, but it never felt like unnecessary/unproductive pressure that actually keeps you from learning (which I think happens sometimes in other bootcamps).
I think that often the deal with bootcamps is that what you put in is what you get back, and GH makes it pretty easy to put a lot in. The culture is really positive, the instructors are very dedicated (and so very smart), and the staff is super helpful. Even months after graduating GH is still there to help with career advice and general support, and I feel like I’m a part of a really valuable network of women engineers, which is pretty great.
About a month after finishing up at GH I got an offer and started my current job as a full stack developer at a small startup and I’m really happy with where I am in my career. It’s hard to explain how different my professional trajectory is now from what it was before GH, but I just feel so grateful for having that opportunity and for now having an interesting job that I love and where I’m appreciated and can keep improving as an engineer.
A lot of people talk about bootcamps as something they’re glad they did, but wouldn’t want to go through again. Personally, I would redo GH any day of the week, but for now I’ll just have to settle for the great job they helped me get as a full time engineer.
- Awesome program!- 3/4/2017Terry H • Software Engineer • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
I couldn't be happier with the outcome of my Grace Hopper experience. The women I met and the things that I learned in the program have tremendously impacted my life for the better. Before Grace Hopper, I had never taken a programming class but came away from the experience with an awesome job where I feel confident in the work that I do, directly as a result of how well coding is taught at Grace Hopper.
- Awesome Immersive Experience- 2/20/2017Johanna P • Web Developer • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
- Solid Curriculum and Great Alumni- 11/2/2016pm • Software Engineer • Student • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
After accepting a software engineering role at a Silicon Valley tech giant, I'm happy to say that I'm extremely happy with my decision to attend Grace Hopper at Fullstack Academy (GH)!
Prior to GH, I was a recent university graduate with a background in computer science and business. I decided to attend GH to round out my CS background. However, GH did more than just that for me. Not only was I able to really solidify what I learned in college, but I was also able to develop concepts into full stack apps in team environments; dip into libraries, frameworks, and platforms outside of the GH curriculum during project phase; and also practice whiteboarding techniques which were extremely helpful during the job search phase.
In addition to gaining a job-relevant portfolio, GH also introduced me to the extremely welcoming community of GH and Fullstack Academy. Before, during, and after the program, I was able to network with alumni from both GH and Fullstack Academy, who provided me with awesome advice and also connected me with their network. With a job-relevant portfolio and skillset; insider tips; and a strong network, I was able to land my dream job at as an engineer at a great company.
If you're having second thoughs -- don't! GH has a solid curriculum AND a great alumni to prove it.
- Great Decision- 9/13/2016Rebecca • Graduate • Campus: New York City
Attending Grace Hopper Academy was one of the best decisions I have made. After attending UPenn, I was a tech reporter for three years before deciding that journalism wasn't for me and that I was more interested in building the technology than writing about it. I contemplated making that career change on my own, but ultimately decided to attend Grace Hopper and am very glad I did so. GHA gave me the structure and support I needed to feel confident enough in my coding skills to be a professional developer. The workshops at GHA were great, but the three projects I completed at GHA really spurred my growth as a developer. You can complete all the courses and tutorials you want, but it only really hits once you start building your own apps. I accepted a job at one of the companies that came to Hiring Day about 5 weeks after graduating from GHA.
- Best professional decision I've ever made!- 8/9/2016Peggy R • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
With an awesome new software engineering role already lined up after graduating in July, I can safely say that attending Grace Hopper was the best professional decision I’ve ever made!
A little about me: While some girls in my cohort had a CS or math background, I came from a non-technical background and had never taken a computer science course in my life. I graduated from an Ivy League school with a degree in History and worked in merchandising at a department store for a little over two years before making the leap to software engineering. If this process worked for me, it can work for you too! I never felt disadvantaged by my background; however, prepare to spend most of your evenings and Saturdays coding throughout the program. It’s hard work, but it is TOTALLY worth it.
The job search support from Grace Hopper is very thorough - we were prepped on everything from how to create a personal brand on LinkedIn, to salary negotiation, and strategies to successfully tackle whiteboarding interviews. At the end of the program, we presented our capstone projects to employers on Hiring Day, where we also engaged in 5+ short interviews with the employers that attended. The employers range in size from startups to large corporations and are companies you’d be proud to work for. After graduation, I was quickly invited to several on-site interviews and received my first offer from one of Grace Hopper’s hiring partners exactly one week after the program ended. Shortly after, I received a second offer from a Hiring Day lead! The career team is with you every step of the way even after graduation and will coach you through interacting with employers & negotiating salary. I’m really happy where I ended up and can confirm that the salary ranges Grace Hopper & Fullstack claim on their websites are 100% legit.
Attending Grace Hopper not only gave me the skills, but also the confidence to become a successful software engineer. The immersive curriculum empowers you by teaching you how to pick up new frameworks & languages with ease. I couldn’t be happier with the results of my Grace Hopper experience and encourage all women who are serious about becoming a software engineer to apply!
- Wonderful!- 8/8/2016Samantha V • Software Engineer • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
- Highly Recommend!- 7/14/2016Priti P • Software Engineer • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
Highly recommend attending Grace Hopper Academy! Attending this program changed the trajectory of my career path for the better. Prior to attending Grace Hopper, I worked in public accounting at a Big 4 accounting firm. Although I valued the experience I had in my prior career, I knew for quite some time I wanted to transition into the tech industry, so I started to teach myself how to code during my “free time,” and I then attended Grace Hopper and was part of its 1st graduating cohort. Overall, the program is very well structured, has amazing instructors, and an overall positive vibe. After the program ended, I felt very well equipped when searching for jobs and the Career Services Team was very helpful throughout the whole process. It took me about 2 months to find a job. I included more details on the program itself below (although some details may or may not be the same now):
In addition to the curriculum, we had the opportunity to interact with guest speakers from a variety of technical backgrounds. These speakers were all very accomplished and gave me a glimpse of what my future in software development could entail. These experiences were very inspirational and motivated me to continue down this exciting career path.
- The best career decision I've ever made- 6/2/2016Ksenia Mikhailovskaya • Software Engineer • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
I started programming 2 month before getting accepted to GHA and got a job offer as a software engineer within 6 weeks of graduation.
It is a 4-months program - 1 month online prep course + 3 month onsite which includes two phases: the program itself and the job search phase. The latter is what distinguishing GHA from other bootcamps, after the program is finished, the hiring team will work with you during your job search: resume writing, job applications, networking, mock interviews, hiring day. These folks do their best to help you get the job you dream of.
Joining GHA was the best career decision I've made, and I highly recommend checking it out if you consider transitioning into software development.
- "Simply The Best" - Tina Turner- 5/25/2016Mariya B • Software Engineer • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
Rigorous curriculum, amazing instructors and staff. Joining GHA is def top 10 moves of my life, number one being my religious use of coconut oil.
On top of being an incredible coding school, GHA also places a huge importance on fostering a supportive learning atmosphere. Self-care is emphasized and priotarized and from the get go you are forced to find balance.
I was offered a position with one of our hiring partners just a few weeks after my graduation. I would definitely recommend GHA to any woman looking to take her coding skills to the next level.
- life changing experience!- 5/21/2016Jisoo Sin • Graduate • Campus: New York City
tl;dr Exceeded my expectations & best decision I've ever made.
I was a student at Grace Hopper Academy in early 2016 as part of the first cohort. Before attending the bootcamp, I barely knew how to program. I left my job as a CPA before starting GHA, but it took a long time to convince myself that I could make it in this field without any background in CS. My advice is that if you're interested in programming but are afraid of a career change, stop doubting yourself! If you really want it, go for it. My only regret is that I didn't believe in myself sooner. You also really can't go wrong at GHA. All of the people in my cohort had diverse backgrounds, but were also some of the brightest and most ambitious women I have ever met.
I looked into several bootcamps such as App Academy and Flatiron School, but GHA was the obvious first choice for me for many reasons: Fullstack Academy's reputation, GHA being an all women cohort, deferred tuition, and my awesome interview experience with one of my instructors. During my interview, my interviewer taught me a concept that I had been struggling with on my own very clearly and patiently, giving me a sense of the teaching style.
I had 1 main instructor for our 4 week prep phase before the bootcamp started, 2 during junior phase (first half of program) and 2 during senior phase. Every instructor was not only knowledgeable, but also relateable, engaging, and just a fun person to be around. The curriculum is jam-packed, but highly effective and continually evolving with each cohort.
GHA is definitely the best decision I have ever made. It's not only a fun and highly rewarding experience, but you also become part of a huge network of GHA/Fullstack Academy alumni that are always giving back to the community. I couldn't have asked for a better bootcamp experience.
- Recommended, but Set Expectations- 3/11/2019Anonymous • Fullstack Software Engineer • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
The education I received from Grace Hopper Academy was invaluable and provided me with the tools I needed to obtain a job in the field and progress my career. Moreover, I established very strong friendships that benefit me both personally and professionally. If I could do it again I absolutely would, but would strongly recommend managing expectations - not all aspects of this program are great.
Grace Hopper Academy:
Grace Hopper Academy is a specific cohort of the Fullstack Academy school, specifically the all women’s program. The curriculum is the same, there is often intermingling, and teachers rotate through all cohorts.
Comparison to Other Bootcamps:
I take as many opportunities as I can to speak with graduates from other programs - App Academy, General Assembly, Recurse Center, Hack Reactor, Hackbright Academy, etc. The impression I get is that Recurse Center is only a good option if you are very self-motivated, independent, and have a solid foundational knowledge. Otherwise, Hackbright Academy and Fullstack Academy / Grace Hopper seem the best options. Most feedback on others have been a bit negative.
The school takes feedback seriously when it comes to the curriculum, and are constantly aiming to keep it up to date with where the industry is going.
The depth in which computer science concepts (data structures, data types, algorithms) were covered was adequate for understanding questions in entry level interviews, and certainly provides a solid foundation from which to easily continue learning.
Teachers vary in competency, but by and large are good. Just because they are an instructor there does not mean they are knowledgeable on everything or even good at instruction. There seems to be an issue here with a culture of, “We are here to help! But also, no one helped me so figure it out for yourself.” It can be a bit jarring. If you have made it through the process to get into this program, odds are you are not the type of personality that just wants knowledge handed to or problems solved for you. Expect this type of dismissal sometimes when raising questions, and push further when you are told to just look it up online (as if you haven’t already).
Bootcamp Prep (BCP):
Unsure of if this still exists or if the details are current: BCP's tuition rolled $350 towards the overall tuition of the program. This is a great incentive to take it. If you are coming from no background in programming or computer science, this is likely necessary at a minimum.
The Program Schedule:
At the discretion of the fellow that interviews you, you may need to take Builders, the precursor to Foundations. I would recommend asking to take it either way, because it’s very useful and provides more time to get your computer set up to their specifications. This does not cost extra, but does mean that your work starts two weeks prior to Foundations.
- Junior Phase:
Junior phase is the first half of the program - 6 weeks. Class sizes are really big compared to when they began this program. Originally being more like 16 people, now class sizes are mid to high 30s. Most days consist of a review Q&A a half hour prior to class beginning at 10:00 AM, lecture, a solo assignment, and pair programming guided projects. The pair programming is an integral part of the curriculum, and it will be something you do every day. Focus less on finishing the project and more on understanding everything with your partner before moving on to a next step. The pairs are randomized, and you can (and should) provide feedback after each pairing. This will become relevant in Senior Phase.
Your cohort will have a handful of fellows, which are students who just graduated and circle back through the program as the next cohorts mentors. Keep this in mind for perspective on their knowledge level. Classes have two or three teachers that cycle through on different topics, so there is less rapport built with specific teachers than before when there was a pair assigned to a cohort.
- Review week (“Async Week”):
Depending on when your cohort begins in the year, this may be a week or a month (for example, December holidays makes this a month). This is a week you work remotely again. There is enough to do that I would recommend treating it as if school is not on break. While this entire program is very demanding of 3-4 months of your life, my perspective is to lean into it because it is so short and you should take advantage of everything.
This week will have you working on making a boilerplate and understanding OAuth. Boilerplate will be good to understand in your future career, because projects can often jump off a stock boilerplate codebase. OAuth is pretty important to understand, so keep at it this week.
Instructors use this period to determine who will replay Junior Phase (with additional tuition charged). Two from my cohort were replays from the previous cohort and two replayed into the next cohort. Seems like 0-3 is average.
- Senior Phase:
Junior Phase pair programming reviews and ratings come into play heavily in Senior Phase. There will be four major projects:
A video or blog post on a specific topic you researched.
------> Grace Shopper
A week and a half e-commerce website project with a group of four. This group is based on your ratings from Junior Phase. This project incorporates MVP (Minimal Viable Product) stages and code review with instructors.
A solo project lasting a half week and weekend. Hit the ground running and ensure you have a good direction with your instructor before the weekend comes and you won’t have access to assistance. Some instructors may not have experience or knowledge of mobile development, so be careful what project you choose.
A two and a half week project with a group of four. This is group is based on your ratings of all students in a survey taken after Grace Shopper. By now you may understand more the importance of doing this. You pick the technologies to use, but the more technologies you try to cram into this project, the worse off you will be - both on a technical struggle standpoint, as well as when you need to speak about your projects in interviews in the future. Hiring managers will care much more about how you attempted to solve interesting problems on an unfinished app than a super simple, shiny game built on Unity.
The group members for Grace Shopper and Capstone can make or break your time there, so take rating pairings seriously.
I’d recommend keeping a list of ideas and researching interesting concepts for the Presentation, Stackathon, and Capstone starting in Junior Phase (Async Week at the latest). This will allow you to have plenty of input in how these go. Moreover, Senior Phase moves very fast so the sooner you finish the Presentation - which there is no class time allotted for - the better you’ll be. I would recommend doing this in Async Week.
Almost every day is begun with a REACTO (Read back for understanding, Examples/Edgecases, Assess/Approach, Code, Test, Optimize) problem or the occasional lecture. REACTO is this school’s approach to algorithm and coding interview preparation. You will be paired randomly with someone for a week and switch off each day on being the interviewer and the interviewee. The problems can be quite difficult, and I personally used this time to, again, focus less on finishing the problem and more on working with my partner to understand as much of it as possible. REACTOs done here are, on average, on par in difficulty that interviews provide.
The work involved with presentation of the Capstone seems somewhat relevant to product management and pitching ideas. However, the format is off to me. You spend too much time making a video and script for a presentation as if the app you make is full, finished, and worth presenting. You will certainly never show this video to any potential employers. I would recommend focusing more on thinking and practicing (with your group) talking points on interesting code or design you used, problems you came across, how you did or would solve them, and so on.
This is a hiring day in which companies come to campus for a mini career-fair which includes both Grace Hopper and Fullstack Academy cohorts. Somewhere around 4-10 from my cohort accepted offers within two months from companies they initially met on Launch Day. It’s merely an intro, an initial point of contact. Some companies may not be hiring but come anyway. Some may be hiring in 3-6 months. Some may be hiring for other cities like Boston. Some may be only hiring customer-facing, non-technical roles. These are things to keep in mind.
The roster for this day varies, but there are strong partnerships with some that come often (American Express, JP Morgan Chase, Simon Data as examples). You are assigned to four companies and have little say in who they are. Still, there is a networking session after in which you can approach anyone. I recommend taking advantage of that, and even trying to catch someone before it starts.
Fullstack Academy: $17,910
Grace Hopper: $19,610
These are not low numbers, to be sure. Contrary to their marketing, the Grace Hopper absolutely does have upfront cost in the form of a $3,000 deposit due before beginning. The final total after graduation is somewhere around $16,600. Note that BCP tuition may be deducted here. Monthly payments after accepting an offer will be along the lines of $1,800 for nine months.
With the three (or four) months of full time commitment, $3,000 deposit, two to four months (on average) of job searching after, this is a huge investment and is out of reach for a lot of people. Sure, the tuition repayment for Grace Hopper makes it slightly easier for women to take this route, but not by much. If you cannot afford a full 10 months off without income, this probably won’t be an option for you.
The CIRR report they show is usually dated by a year or two. Cohort graduates near mine, ending in the second half of 2018, saw in the $70k - $100k range - typically ~$85k. With that result, it seems quite clear as being worth it. I do not see or hear any stories of people going through this and exiting the industry after (even after 2-5 years). I know myself, and self study would not have been nearly as adequate to set me up for success.
You’ll make an excellent network of peers and friends and have so many resources to take advantage of once you begin.
This is a good example of how parts of this program can be helpful for those with little to no experience in a certain area. If you have gone through career changes, job interviews, networking, etc. there is quite a bit here that can feel very dumbed down or a downright hinderance. Keeping the perspective in mind that they are providing a really solid framework and tools available if needed will help you not be disappointed in the lack of depth. Sometimes, there doesn’t actually need to be depth, and sometimes there is only so much they can do to help you. Which leads to the problem of expectations. Do not allow this or other bootcamp’s marketing to shape your expectations into thinking that after this program you’ll be handed a job or it will be super easy.
That said, I will reiterate that they do provide a lot of resources and framework.
There is a career counselor dedicated to you when you graduate, but they have dozens of other graduates to help as well. Still, they were relatively available. I felt they were inconveniently unavailable the day I received an offer. Interpersonally, I felt quite disappointed with the career success staff. The habits and guidelines they propose for the job search are a great start, but should only be used if you are not actively in the interview process with one or more companies that need more attention.
This will be brutal. Expect to not get an offer for at least three months. You can get lucky, you can know or meet the right person. But do not expect that you’ll stand out to any company in any way. Too many people underestimate how rough this will be, how much rejection you will face, and how long it will take to get even one offer.
Hit the ground running and have a strategy for this time period. You need quality, but you also need quantity. Those from my cohort that applied to only a couple places a month are really struggling. The career counselors have a guideline they propose for this, and I’d recommend that as a starting point.
Another point is know what you want. You can certainly get an offer for a tech support role or a client-facing role that doesn’t actually touch any code except when they let you for half a day on Fridays. But know what you’re willing to do and what you want to do. Keep in mind that the first job is the hardest to find by far, and once you have one the next will be easier. Stepping stones.
You will certainly make strong connections in your immediate cohort. I would recommend interacting with your Seniors and Juniors to triple that exposure. There is a dedicated alumni slack workspace.
I feel confident that the network I have established from this program will help me moving forward. Moreover, it appears that most graduates from bootcamp programs are very receptive to one another. Traditional computer science graduates are hit or miss.
This will end up being on you to be a part of the change in the industry which has its fair share of gatekeeping.
Grace Hopper Moving Forward:
Like many trade schools, this has some potential problems with lowering admission requirements and diluting the reputation in pursuit of profit. As of right now, I did not find this to be the definite case. Moreover, the impression I receive from other bootcamps is that Fullstack Academy is the best when it comes to this.
- Classes too big- 12/10/2018Anonymous • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
Class sizes used to be <20, now they are 30-40. This matters a lot. Older reviews are not going to reflect what your experience will be like as this organization changes. Ask recent grads and current attendees directly on other websites like linked in, etc.
Work hard, have high expectations of yourself — and yourself only. Your classmates will be your biggest asset, so build good strong working relationships with them.
- Grace Hopper- 12/10/2017Anonymous • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
I would definitely recommend attending Grace Hopper! Overall, I had a great experience and was able to find a job as a software engineer fairly quickly after graduating.
In doing boot camp research, I found that Grace Hopper/Fullstack's curriculum was the most robust and industry applicable of NYC boot camps. Also, the fact that it's the only all-women boot camp on the east coast (I'm pretty sure) was a huge selling point for me.
The curriculum was very thorough and delivered very very fast-paced. Not everyone makes it from the first half of the program to the second (project based) half. Even more stressful than the huge influx of information were the presentation-based projects. I definitely appreciated them, because it made it easier to talk about different technologies confidently. I hope they continue having that as an integral part of their curriculum.
I thought the instructors were a great mix of people in the industry and people who graduated from GH or Fullstack themselves. They seemed genuinely invested in your success, which is not something you hear about a lot of boot camps.
The culture at Grace Hopper was amazing. I loved how they emphasized collaboration over competition. For the most part, they seem to choose students who are easy to work with. I came out of the program with a lot of new friends.
Their career service team is really aggressive, in a good way. They are really great at what they do, which made it less stressful to find a job after graduating.
Overall, I had a great experience at Grace Hopper, and would recommend it to any woman looking to change their career.
- absolutely amazing- 5/25/2016Anonymous • Graduate • Course: Grace Hopper Program • Campus: New York City
- Absolutely Amazed- 9/4/2018Bronwyn H. • Student • Campus: New York City
It's difficult to encapsulate the transformative experience I've had at the Grace Hopper program at Fullstack Academy in a few words, but I'll try! I have never before experienced an educational environmental that condensed such a high amount of marketable skills in such a short time frame. This however, would not be possible without the incredible instructors and helpful fellows who are determined to see EVERY student succeed. This is also evident with the deferred tuition plan that comes with participating in the Grace Hopper program. This means that Fullstack is so invested in your potential that they will not accept payments unless you have received a developer or software engineering role within a year. Within just 5 months I have gone from for loops to full stack applications that non technical users can enjoy. And even with an undergraduate education, I can honestly say this has been the most rewarding educational experiences I have ever had. If you enjoy coding and want to push yourself to the next level, Grace Hopper will not disappoint.