Devmountain Reviews
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Jeff Chapman
Most effective 3 months of learning of my life
I came from the San Francisco Bay Area to attend DevMountain. All the bootcamps in SF were so overpriced and overpopulated that I feared I wouldn't get the education I was looking for. DevMounatain was a perfect fit. The environment was ideal, the teachers were awesome and the other students were smart and a blast to work with. I'm glad I cam to DevMountain and I highly recommend it.
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Jeff
BEST place to start a web development career!
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I recently finished the full time web dev class. It was the best thing I ever did for my career. I was working in finance and wasn't happy and always had an interest in learning web development. I had heard good things about DevMountain and quit my job and jumped in head first to learn how to code.
The learning environment was awesome. It's an intense class, but moves at a speed that you're able to keep up and continue to learn. They offer full time mentors who are with you all day and will help with any questions you have as you work on class projects, personal projects, etc.
I loved my time here and miss it! I made some great friends and future business partners! DevMountain has made it possible for me to switch careers and to hopefully evolve into a world class software engineer. Wouldn't have been possible if it weren't for DevMountain. Thanks!!!
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Michael Sayer
super rad
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I love DevMountain. I was in the Immersive Web Dev cohort at the beginning of this year and I am so happy about my decision. The learning environment is designed to keep you engaged and moving forward. Around every corner is a new challenge but the mentors and instructors provide plenty of positive reinforcement. These guys taught me how to write code, but more importantly, they taught me how to learn new technologies. I now feel like I stand a chance in an industry that’s constantly changing.
There are many ways one can learn to code. But because of DevMountain, in three months I was able to learn a MEAN stack, build my own applications, make some amazing friends, and get into an entry level position at an awesome tech startup. Keep in mind six months ago I was making minimum wage as barista, without a degree…
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Stephen Done
Great Way to Jumpstart Your Dev Career
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This school is great. The instructors know what they are doing, and you can tell that the people there care that you learn. I took the after hours course - no other school offers that opportunity, and I'm grateful they offer it. I really wish I had been able to take the immersive course - but that just wasn't an option for me, what with five kids to take care of. The part time course was excellent, was challenging, and provided a great jumping off point for me to continue to learn on my own. I spent a lot of time working on my personal project and experimenting with better ways to do things. Whenever I had a question, the mentors and instructors were happy to help. If you can, take the immersive course, but if you don't and you are willing to put in a lot more time on your own beyond what they schedule for you, the after hours course is excellent and you can make it work for you.
I haven't asked for much direct help finding a position - this is perhaps one area where they could improve - but I haven't had any trouble getting interviews. Networking is really something you need to do on your own - and they provide plenty of opportunities to do it. I've been really impressed with their efforts to create a community of developers, and to provide continuing opportunities to learn after the fact.
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Brandon Kent
Best School.
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I just finished the full-time immersive web development cohort last month, and my experience at DevMountain was such a huge positive. My wife and I with our two sons sold our house in Phoenix, AZ to come up to Provo so I could do the DevMountain immersive web program. Being up at DevMountain was awesome. It is such a unique environment with a powerful atmosphere that is centered around learning how to code. I learned so much during those 3 months, typed my fingers to the bone, came out with a bunch of new skills, and was able to kickstart a brand new career as a software engineer. If you have any interest in learning how to code, DevMountain is the best place to learn, would recommend to anyone.
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Rick Wightman
DevMountain is most likely one of the best schools of learning I have ever attended.
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DevMountain is most likely one of the best schools of learning I have ever attended, the days were long and the curriculum challenging. I went from being able to basically navigate the web at the beginning to building my first complete MEAN stack (MongoDB as the database, Express as the web framework, AngularJS as the frontend framework, and Node.js as the server platform). While the mentors were very knowledgable and available whenever I ran into writing challenging code, their encouragement to first try and find a solution on my own gave me the confidence I needed to feel comfortable solving difficult problems. I felt during the 12-week immersion course that DevMountain’s staff wanted us to succeed and provided ping pong & foosball tournaments, video game challenges in the evenings my favorites were Friday’s breakfast and the free membership to a local recreational center there are way too many other events to list here that helped us to break away from the intense focus on learning code and relax our tired minds. In the end all the hard work and long hours finally started to come together when I completed my first personal and group web projects. DevMountain taught me more than a career the gave lifelong passion, thank you DevMountain.
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Anonymous
Great experience!
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DevMountain provided a great foundation into the world of coding. The atmosphere was relaxed and generally a fun place to hang around. Twelve weeks went by way too quickly, which is a good thing. This means you are being challenged and learning something new each and every day. You get out of the course what you put in. I had zero coding experience prior to going through this course, but now I can create web applications in a just a few days that would have taken years if I tried learning on my own. I highly recommend this program if you are looking to break away from your current career path.
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Anonymous
Highly recommended
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I was part of the latest full time web dev cohort (Jan - Mar 2015). We had a great group of students and instructors. Before this I was working in a software company providing product support. I had been trying to learn to code over the past three years but decided I needed an immersive experience. I can safely say I learned far more in 12 weeks at Devmountain than in the previous 3 years of self study.
I had no previous Javascript experience before Devmountain and now I can build a full stack app (including API endpoints and a database on the backend). They cover front and back end Javascript (namely angularJS on the front end and nodeJS on the backend) so you will have a chance to figure out which area you like more (I prefer back end js).
The building they are in is really cool (its a former candy factory built in the 1800s). There is a ton of space and you can go there any time of day to code (I spent most of my nights coding in the loft).
I highly recommend Devmountain. No matter where you are in terms of education or career it will equip you to build something useful
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Ty Frith
Best Experience!
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I just finished up the immersive web development course last week and can honestly say it was one of the best decisions I have ever made. The course was very challenging, and there was no shortage of frustration while learning, but talk to ANYONE with coding experience and they will say that it's a necessary evil. I can't believe how much I learned in a quick 3 months. Comparing my skill set before and after the cohort is a joke! All the hard work most definitely payed off. I can't stress enough how awesome the DevMountain experience was, go for it!
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Fumiko Richards
It changed my life!!
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I wanted to change dirction in my career and become a web developer. I was a senior quality assurance specialist when I enrolled.
DevMountain has a well developped curriculum that helps you to maximize your learning trajectory as long as you work hard. All instructors are very knowledgeable and helpful.
Trying to balance my full time work that required me to work more than 50 hours/week and getting homework done was challenging. However, Since I enjoyed learning programming so much, I did not regret my decision to attend Devmountain.
Now I am a full time developer and loving my life!
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Jacob Turner
Stellar
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I was in DevMountain's first immersive course, web dev in Fall of 2014. I absolutely loved my experience.
It was difficult. They organize the cirriculum so you always feel like you're just slightly (or sometimes, extremely) behind. But they help you out enough that you don't drown or fall behind. I felt like it was the perfect balance to learn effectively.
The mentor program is great. Their entire goal isn't just to debug or find solutions to your problems, but it's to help you learn. If it's better for you, they'll tell you to look it up or figure it out on your own, but only after pointing you in the right direction.
Perhaps the best part of DevMountain is the hands-on mentality. There are lectures almost every day, but the clear focus is on the projects. Every day there is a group mini-project where a mentor will walk the entire class through a project step by step. The mentor doesn't move past a step until every student has their code working up to that point. After the daily mini project, you go off to work on the day's real project on your own. Mentors are made available to help if you get stuck.
After week six, the cirriculum (which, I might add, is very streamlined and focused) is essentially done. For the last six weeks (or seven, starting with the next cohort) you just build projects. There are two projects at this point: your personal project and the group project. The point is to take everything that you've learned for the last six weeks and compile it all into two projects. You can then present these projects to potential employers. DevMountain has a demo night specifically organized to showcase students and their projects to potential employers.
10/10, would learn again.
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Devin
DevMountain for the win
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DevMountain is great, I started in 2014 and its everything they say it is. Ive learned so much during my time with DevMountain. The teachers have been great. The class is fast and sometimes overwhelming but I have learned a lot and am continuing to learn alot. I like the location and price, you can not beat that. I currently do not have a job but will be looking for one as class ends. I recommend it for anyone who feels comfortable with a computer.
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Kurt
Exactly what I was looking for
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I realized that i was interested in coding when I was asked to do a project at work that required some macros in excel. I was enjoying that a lot more than my normal role so a friend (developer) suggested that I try learning a programming language. I spent a lot of time on Codecademy and Lynda.com but eventually got frustrated because the things I was learning weren't resulting in anything tangible. It was valueable information, but I was so far from being able to actually create something that I became discouraged. I didn't want to let go of the idea of programming but I realized that my aimless search for information would eventually lead to me giving up. I considered going back to school to get a CS degree but that seemed like a step back in life and would require multiple years of sacrifice. Finally another friend told me about dev bootcamps. I looked at the well renouned and very expensive bootcamps in the country and quickly realized that i didn't have the means to put my life on hold and move out of state for 3 months with no income. I found the DevMtn cohort and determined that it was my best option. It turned out to be a great decision! I've been done with the class for about a month now. I haven't sent a single resume out, yet i've had 3 job interviews with great companies that FOUND ME on LinkedIn. I'm scheduled for a second interview for 2 of those positions and I feel confident that I will do well. In a nutshell, if you want to learn to code NOW, this is a fantastic way to do it. It is VERY difficult and frustrating because you are bombarded with so much information that never seems to end. But I guess there is a reason that they call them bootcamps. DevMtn was a great experience for me and I would recommend it to anyone who is driven to start a career in web development.
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Pablo Arcia
It's a no brainer.
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I love DevMountain! This is where I really learned programming. I did the part-time class this last summer and it has changed my life! I was working in a call center and I hated every minute of it. I really disliked talking to dumb people all day long and trying to fix their issues. I was looking for a way out and I found it through DevMountain. After completing the 12 week bootcamp, I was hired as a software engineer at a local startup. Now I look forward to going to work and develop my skills. If you are looking to change careers or just get better at JavaScript, you cannot pass up on the chance to attend DevMountain. -
Danaan Clarke
Absolutely Worth It
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I did the Part-time cohort in Provo, and it was exactly what I was looking for. I'm a designer at a software company, with no prior development experience. I wanted to understand how my designs would be built and be able to communicate with the development teams I worked with. After a few weeks of DevMoutain I was able to more effectively communicate with the development teams and better understand what could and couldn't be feasibly built. My designs got better and I gained confidence in myself as we built our individual projects each week in class. DevMountain gets you coding from week 1 in front end and backend technologies, so you understand how web applications work and have experience doing it all. They give you the tools to decide which area of development you're good at and enjoy, so you can make a career decision and pursue it. It was awesome. Every night we wrote code with teachers and mentors to help us when we got stuck, giving you context that online tutorials can't match. I had a great experience and made friendships and connections that benefit me now and will in the future. Can't recommend these guys enough. -
Anonymous
Save Your Money
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Terrible Boot camp. They prey on people wanting to better their lives with the hopes of getting a high paying job. During my time at DevMountain I had an instructor mention that DevMountain wouldn't want me to say this but majority of you wont get a job from this bootcamp. He said we just don't learn enough to be hirable. The instructors were never prepared, or recent graduates of DevMountain. One instructor apologized to us saying he wasn't in the right head space to teach today and then didn't teach. We missed valuable skills that night. If you want to waste thousands of dollars go for it. This is the place for you. -
Anonymous
It was good.
It was good. I enjoyed it and it was well done. I know this sounds basic but its the truth it was good. Here are more characters for this box that is not allowing me to submitt what i want to submit. So if you are still reading this know that I stand by what I say. -
Anonymous
Excellent and Useful
I'm so grateful for this course. By the end of it I feel much more confident in my abilities to get a job and to create a full website for future clients. I would tell anyone to take this course! -
Anonymous
Difficult but doable, with fun
A lot going on here, but it's all important. No unnecessary fluff, just coding and building websites/apps, with any necessary theory/algorithm discussions included. The Instructors I was taught by were both competent and helpful. I haven't gotten a job yet, but their job-searching lectures were all very informative, and hopefully the strategies pay off.Andrew of Devmountain
Marketing Team, Content and Creative
Jul 07, 2023
Thank you for posting this thoughtful review! I think you hit the nail on the head with your assessment of the curriculum. It's focused, intensive, and designed to equip you with a range of skills that build a meaningful foundation and help you pursue a career. We hope you'll stay in touch with your contacts at Devmountain as you continue to learn and grow professionally. If you should have additional thoughts about your experience feel free to reach out. marketing@devmountain.com -
Anonymous
Challenging, Rewarding, Fun
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I was nervous to begin this bootcamp because I had absolutely zero experience with coding before it. The material was good but I felt like it could have been more thorough and in depth. Then again, that is the way the cookie crumbles in bootcamps. There wasn't as much take home homework the first half of the program that I was expecting and I didn't learn from the given video material the second half. -
Anonymous
Not Worth It For Cybersecurity
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My experience was specifically in the cybersecurity program and I would highly recommend avoiding Devmountain for this course of study. The first 8 weeks is focused on Foundations which is a very basic overview of full stack development. The instructors were awesome and I came away feeling like, with more practice, I could easily program in HTML and JavaScript. Then I started my 8 week spec course specializing in cybersecurity and that is where the wheels came off. There is next to no support at this stage, it is pretty much self-guided study using Jason Dion trainings through Udemy which you can purchase on your own for a few hundred dollars versus ~$10,000 for the Devmountain course. After fighting through the program, not a single job I applied to cared about me having any programming experience because the vast majority of cybersecurity does not involve coding at all. Those positions that do require coding are things like being a member of the DevSecOps team but those positions are rarely trained in cybersecurity specifically and are rather people with huge amounts of experience coding and knowing how to make the code solid and secure. So the best part of Devmountain (the 8-week Foundations course) doesn't even apply to this area of study.
At the end of the day, I spent almost $10,000 on Devmountain, received 8 weeks of instructor-led training that did not apply to my desired field of study, then spent 8 weeks studying CompTIA Security+ and Network+ on my own and I could have just paid for for a lot of training materials for these for less than $1,000. I could do two semesters of a master's degree program for less than the cost of a 16-week Devmountain course that doesn't even help in cybersecurity. No matter how you look at it, Devmountain is not worth it for cybersecurity and the worst part of all of it is that no administrators at Devmountain care to listen to my experience so they can improve things for future classes. Avoid wasting your $10,000 like I did if you want to go into cybersecurity. -
Anonymous
Great Experience
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I had a great experience with the Dev Mountain Web Development camp. The curriculum covers a lot of material and move pretty fast, but wasn't un manageable at any point. There was also plenty of opportunity to put in some extra work to be able to get a better grasp on the curriculum as well as learn some additional content. The second portion of the course is more loosely structured which helps to develop the skills for learning new technologies on your own which is critical to succeed in the industry. The career advice and job assistance is also top notch with weekly lectures and great advice on making yourself stand out against your peers. -
Anonymous
Not all it's cracked up to be!
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I came into devmountain with an understanding of web development from self learning. The first half of the curriculum was insightful but a mash up of skills spanning multiple careers as well as information I had already learned on my own. It was nice to gain an understanding of the job requirements of the fields around mine but it didn't necessarily make me a better developer.
The second half of the full time course was frustrating to say the least. They just give you a subscription to udemy and recommend videos to watch. It was nice having people around when you need help but it was not much different then self learning. I feel like the biggest benefit was that I spent so much money I was encouraged to be disciplined.
The outcomes team coaches you on how to get a job but doesn't help you with placement and the information they give you only gets you so far, the most important part is continuing to learn new skills and creating projects for your portfolio. Don't think for a second you will finish that course and be placed in a few months like the outcomes team says. It took me almost a year to find a job and having devmountain on my resume was not a large part of that. My success was because I had the resources and the support system to focus on continuing to learn, to appeal to the employers.
Many of my classmates still have not found opportunities (other than working for devmountain) and had to go back to their previous careers to pay off the loans they took out to pay for this over priced curriculum. I was also informed by the outcomes team that the reason I was not finding a job was because I was not harassing employers after applying. I can tell you no one likes that. I didn't get my job because I emailed them or stalked them on LinkedIn, I got the job because I went out of my way to keep growing which shows dedication, and because I made myself more appealing to potential employers. After adding typescript projects to my portfolio was when the interviews really started rolling in.
In the end, this course might be beneficial to some, but I hate to see people thinking that going to devmountain is all they need to find a job. -
Anonymous
Great course with post graduation resources
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After pounding my head against the proverbial wall in college trying to get a computer science degree I finally switched went to a web dev boot camp. The college I was attending had a good CS degree but that degree had almost nothing for web development. I went to DevMountain and loved it. The instructors were good and so was the curriculum. One of the things I liked most from the curriculum was that they tried to do more than just teach the language that they use but also to teach students how to learn a new language and tools.
My favorite thing about the school those is their student outcomes team. They have several people dedicated to helping students get jobs and they are great to work with. The amount of effort that this team has put into helping me get a job after an extremely unique and challenging situation since graduation has been super helpful -
Anonymous
Definitely Something
Learned a lot, loved learning to code. Had some problems with one instructor. -
Anonymous
iOS Development Bootcamp
Started very intense had a lot to learn, but the process built on good patterns which show me the way to developing iOS applications. Overall it was a great experience. -
Anonymous
UX Design After Hours
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Had a great experience going through the after hours UX program at Devmountain in Lehi. Being on campus was great, but halfway through the program we switched to remote learning due to COVID-19. The organization was able to pivot really quickly to help deliver a great experience nonetheless. I think that speaks a lot to them as an organization and both their ability to instruct and their care for students and their needs. -
Anonymous
Student
I believe the instructors are incredibly inexperienced in how to teach individuals. They may know the subject, but teaching that subject to others is a whole different skill all together. They need quality instructors if they expect to teach a very technical subject in a VERY short period of time. -
Anonymous
Stay away. Used to be good but not anymore
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Stay away!!! DevMountain is now a company that offers very little at great cost. They are always cutting corners and costs to save on an already highly profitable business at the expense of student learning. I would not recommend it to anyone at this point. I attended DevMountain When it was in Provo and mentored when they moved to Lehi. DevMountain was fantastic when I attended. And back then I would have and did recommend it to everyone but it went down hill really quickly after the shift in management after the new owners really took over. Over 6 months ALL the web instructors left and they hired recent grads with NO job experience to replace them in order to cut costs. They decreased the number of mentors per student and significantly lowered the bar for mentors. Recent grads that would have normally been hired as mentors are now being hired as instructors and so they are hiring virtually anyone who wants to be a mentor regardless of skill. They removed most of the extra resources for students. Significantly lowered the physical classroom quality so while in lecture you can hear all 3 other lectors going on simultaneously separated only by small decorative half walls. The current devmountain management has and will cut any cost they can because they know they can ride off the good reviews and legacy of the old owners and management for a while. Stay away!!! I have worked with students who are graduating now and they are getting a much much lower quality of education/skill set. -
Anonymous
I enjoyed my time there!
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I made a huge change in my career after being in retail for over 15 years. I was really happy that I made this decision to go into web development. Originally in college, I was studying it and change majors. I wish I kept going with my original plan but it happens.
I had a couple friends that attended this bootcamp but at different campuses and the one in Lehi is fairly new. As much as I enjoyed the whole experience at the school, there were a couple things I wish they could have fixed but it was limited to what they could do there anyway. Sometimes it can be tough to listen to lectures while other classes surrounding your class is louder than your instructor. Great thing our instructors were patient and allowed us to ask questions or go over that part of the topic again. The bootcamp does give you all the necessary material you need to learn plus access to resources like mentors, after-hours help and even other students who are in different cohorts that can assist. That's one of the major things about being in tech, people can be willing to help you when you're stuck.
The curriculum there is concentrated in JavaScript which is great for modern programming language. Once you get an idea of what you're doing, keep grinding and learning. I dedicated countless hours a week to keep learning. I did fell behind a couple times but you can still catch up. Make sure you ask questions!! You paid this money to go there, if you don't know what they're teaching you, just ask questions or go over it again.
The housing was the major selling point for me coming up there. It all depends who rooms with you that makes your living experience enjoyable. For me, I like my place clean and I clean up after myself. If others don't do their due-diligence, it's not going to be good for you.
Once you completed your curriculum there, meet with the student-success advisors. They want you to succeed after graduating. They follow-up with me to make sure I have found something, if not; they'll ask what I'm doing and how I should do it.
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Anonymous
Mission Complete
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I took the Web Development - Full Stack cours. My goal was to gain an education, enough to get a job. DevMountain delivered.
DevMountain was rigorous enough, community driven, and strategically organized for optimal skill development. They educated me on the content I needed to display during my interviews, that eventually got me my job.
I was hired as a Mobile Developer, but my knowledge of the full stack showed them I was more than a guy that knew Swift and I was granted a higher position from the get go. Many question I was asked, were answered from content I had learned the last week or two.
An offer was over the table before I completed the bootcamp, what a pleasant suprise. -
Anonymous
Is it worth it? Honest review in 2019
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I would not entirely recommend the DevMountain full stack immersive program because after completion of the course, there is no help for you. You are left on your own to try and find a job and your few skills do not let you apply for a majority of the web development positions out there. The hiring events that they hold after you complete the program only target the students who are mentors and you will be lucky to have anything after you hand out a resume.They also do not publish that there is roughly only a 60% hire rate for graduates after 6 months. They do not tell you that you will be competing with thousands of other bootcamp and 4 year CS grads for a very small number of junior level positions. DevMountain also does a poor job at job preparation and you do not get enough practice for the real world of day long tech interviews or phone screens. Personally, if I had the option of doing it all over, I would have hired an experienced professional to tutor me privately for several months versus having only a few weeks of group instruction/ lectures that you get at DevMountain. The housing is nice.. as well as the friends you make, but the lack of experience and simple skillset will not get you a satisfactory job in the current market. You better be a wizard at coding or you will regret not spending your $11900 on something more useful. Remember, higher education is a BUSINESS and all sales are final. Shop wisely.
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Anonymous
Time Commitment
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I probably spend 80 + hours per week at dev mountain, or working on projects, or other assignments for the Web Development Immersive Course. I am just graduating, but I have to say, I wouldn't do it any other way. Put in the time, because you will need every minute of it to try to absorb the immense amount of content that will be covered in your 13 week stay.
Great, challenging course, just don't come in with any plans for a social life outside of this while you are here. There really just isn't time for that.
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Anonymous
Good experience, but a little misleading
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Honestly, I went a few years ago and still regret this choice. DevMountain was a fun experience but not worth the money it costs to have that experience. At the time they made it seem like you would get a job from doing this program. They pushed a 95% job placement for their students. As a 24-year-old, I thought that sounded great and they made it sound great. They really pushed the job aspect and made you believe you would get a job. However, I quickly learned this wasn't the case. I even had one instructor tell us a majority of us wouldn't even get a job but DevMountain wouldn't want me to tell you that. As a Father supporting a family this wasn't what I was wanting to hear. Everything DevMountain said to our group was geared towards us getting a job, they led us to believe we would. Now I take full responsibility for the fact that I never got a job I can't blame my frustrations of not landing a job on a school but I can blame them for the misleading they did. They could have told us from the start that it's going to be hard to land a job but if they did that most of us wouldn't have gone. They also said they would help us get interviews and bring companies to DevMountain to help us get into situations to get interviewed for jobs. This was never the case. They had a website for alumni where they would post job announcements and only one or two jobs ever got posted. I checked daily and nothing ever happened with that site. If they were more upfront with us at the beginning it wouldn't have been bad, but they led us to believe that if we learned these skills people would hire us. I only got a few interviews when I finished and every time I interviewed they would say sorry you don't have enough experience. I understand that life happens and you can't blame others for the bad stuff in life that happens but a school like DevMountain shouldn't have misled like they did. I believe now they corrected some of their mistakes but for the people who were with them at the start kind of got shafted. I had a great time at DevMountain, I learned a lot and enjoyed the people. I turned a lot of opportunities down because DevMountain promised a lot that they didn't live up to, and yes they even said 95% of students were hired. I just wish they were upfront for the students when they started there program. I understand there's a lot of bugs to work out in a new business but a lot of people were affected by their poor decisions.
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Anonymous
Full Time Immersive
I attended DevMountain's full time immersive course in the summer of 2016. I had an awesome experience and was blown away how much I could learn and understand in their 12 week course. I felt like I had the support I needed with their instructors and mentors and loved being in an immersive situation with other students.
if you're looking to learn full stack web dev I'd highly recommend DevMTN!
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Anonymous
I would definitely do it again
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DevMountain was a challenging but fulfilling experience. It costs a lot of money, but the tradeoff is worth it as long as you are willing to work hard to get to where you need to be by graduation. The mentors and instructors were super helpful and knew their stuff. The curriculum contained a lot of outdated and extremely long videos that were marginally helpful, but the in-class gudied projects really helped solidify things. I haven't had the chance to go to a DevMountain hiring event yet so that is why the Job Assistance rating is a 3, although I'm sure the hiring event will be awesome.
All in all, a great experience and I would definitely do it again.
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Anonymous
Great experience
Fun people, good material, responsible mentor!
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Anonymous
Sub-par education; don't waste your money here
I have applied for dozens if not hundreds of jobs and had a decent number of interviews, but none of them are remotely interested in the middling work I did at DevMountain.
It was a terrible idea to invest in a bootcamp that did not guarantee a job before spending $10,000 and going-on 7 months of unemployment. Do not make my mistake; look elsewhere, or take some Udemy courses instead.
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Anonymous
Bootcamps are not worth it
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I will try and keep this short and to the point to help future bootcampers make educated decisions when deciding on which track to take, in heading towards a world of web development. First off, my overall experience at Dev Mountain was ok and the staff was very friendly and nice. The facility is nice, clean and is open 24hrs a day, which is great for focusing and coding into the late hours of the night. The housing option was another great feature which lead me towards choosing Dev Mountain as a coding bootcamp. All of these features and options were great, and were probably the reason why I gave the bootcamp a medium rating.
The things I didn't like while attending were some of the lectures and classes were a bit unorganized and the school seemed like they didn't have there stuff together at times. Also some of the curriculum course assignments were out of date, and didn't work when trying to complete the assignments. This made things difficult when trying to learn new concepts in coding. This was not just me, but I know a lot of students complained about this aspect of the schooling as well. I also felt that the lack of professional coding experience by the staff was underwhelming. Outside of the lead instructor, most of the mentors and instructors were very green to the software development world. These were some of the things I was hoping that a bootcamp experience would have delivered on since I was paying for a high priced education. Oh yeah, and towards the end of the experience, they tell you that a bootcamp doesn't really look that good on your resume and that you should try to disguise that somehow. Weird thing to tell your students, who have just paid a bunch of money to go to school and sacrificed everything to change careers. This was another thing myself and other students felt a little strange about, but obviously couldn't do anything since it was disclosed during the last week of schooling.
I think overall out of any bootcamp experience, I think the advertising out there boasts one thing, but the reality of going through it, is another story all together. If I could do it all over again, I would not have quit my job and lost out on so much time and money that I invested. In total, I've been jobless for 6 months now and upon looking for work, there really aren't that many junior dev jobs out there like a lot of bootcamps boast about. If anything, join up with Pluralsight/Udemy, keep your job and learn from building projects that work out of the box. The bootcamps are teaching the same concepts and aren't enlightening the students with any sort of extra knowledge you can't get from a time tested teaching resource like Pluralsight/Udemy. If anything, I've learned more from watching expert PS videos and going through online teaching courses, than at the physical bootcamp schooling. That's just my take on it all, some people need the bootcamp experience, but for me it was not worth my job, time and money invested. I worked really hard while there, and continue to work really hard in trying to move forward, I just thought things would have turned out differently.
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Anonymous
AVOID THE AFTER HOURS PROGRAM AT ALL COSTS!!!
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Dev Mountain wasn’t a horrible experience for me by any means. The instructors were awesome, and certainly did the best they could to teach you to code in a short amount of time. However, the bottom-line is that Dev Mountain is a double-edged sword. Is it a waste of time? Yes and No.
If you can afford to pay $10,000 and take the Immersive course – I would recommend that you do so. They will teach you the front and back end side of development, and will provide some type of job placement. However, if you cannot afford the Immersive course, or cannot simply be in class all day – DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE AFTER HOURS CLASS! It is a complete waste of money and time. Some people may argue otherwise, as people certainly have found jobs from the After Hours class. However, there are a number of things to be aware of when it comes to this course.
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Dev Mountain will not acknowledge or support their after-hours students. Once you “graduate” from the after-hours program you will not receive ANY support or job placement from Dev Mountain. If someone contacts Dev Mountain to ask about you, they will not say you know what you’re doing because you simply haven’t had enough hours in development to receive their endorsement. You get as much credit from them as if you never took the course in the first place.
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You learn nothing about the back-end. All you learn is simple front-end development in HTML, CSS, some jQuery, and AngularJS. With the Immersive you learn both front and back end – an important thing when looking for a developer job.
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The most important thing that almost all jobs I was looking for to get in as an entry-level developer is a Bachelor Degree in Computer Science. This is almost the main thing all people looking for Junior Developers are looking for. If you truly want to get into coding – go this route and avoid a coding boot camp.
Now, DevMountain will tell you that they offer an advanced after-hours course to teach the back end which is true. But ask them how many people actually sign up for it. They’ve had to cancel it twice as no one has any interest in doing so after they take the regular after-hours course and find out that they’ve just wasted $5,000. They claim that over 90% of their students find jobs, but these figures are for the people who took the Immersive class. If they kept stats of how many after-hours graduates find jobs (which I’m sure they don’t because they simply don’t care about these students after they have their money) I would think that the placement figures would be around 1%-5%. Which means almost 95% of after-hours students just wasted $5,000.
In the end, I would like to see Dev Mountain just get rid of the after-hours course because it’s just a rip off. If you are going to go to Dev Mountain – take the Immersive course, or don’t go at all. I can’t speak for everyone, but I certainly don’t have $5,000 to waste. I could have taken it out and burned it and I would have ended up with the same results. Dev Mountain is supposedly run by ethical LDS people. If this is the case, I would hope that one day they would do the right thing and get rid of the after hours course and just offer the Immersive one. If you can’t afford $10,000, then find a better way to spend your money.
Cahlan Sharp of Devmountain
CEO
Dec 22, 2016
Hi Anonymous,
I wish you'd had a better experience in the class. I'm sorry it didn't turn out the way you hoped. I can say that it appears you took the class some time ago, because there have been a few notable changes since the things you mentioned, most notably that we teach back-end in the After Hours class now (we don't do two classes anymore).
I can't speak to how your particular admissions process was, but we try to make it very clear that if a job is your end goal, then you should do everything you can to take the Immersive course. There is so much more we can do to ensure that you get to the level you need to be to start looking for jobs. That is one reason why we don't offer employment assistance to part-time graduates unless they have a completed portfolio of work. Although some employers still use the CS degree as a filter, in our experience with hundreds placed in and around our campuses, these are relatively few and there are still many jobs to be found.
Having said all that, I would love to connect to see what we can do to make things right by you. Please contact me directly so we can take a look at your situation and find a way to get you where you want to be.
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