Devmountain Reviews
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Chris
SALESFORCE DEVELOPMENT AFTER HOURS
The course was great. Taking the class made it possible to leap over other team members and made it possible to advance faster and more efficiently within the salesforce ecosystem. As with any educational adventure you will run in to limitations and hurdles, But Scott was able to drive through each of them, making sure everyone had a great understanding of each topic. Wonderful course.
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Hilary
Salesforce Development Class
The Salesforce Development class was great. The teacher, Scott Purcell, is very inveseted in his students and helping them to not only succeed in the class but after they finish. Taking this class really expanded my knowledge of Salesforcea as an admin and developer. I highly recommend it!
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Gregory Clark
Intense, but doable
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DevMountain is a great alternative for those who don't want to spend 4 years going to school before getting started in their career. The course is very intense for those who have no coding experience going in to it (like me). I would not recommend trying to do the emersive course while working. I needed all the time outside of class that I could get. DevMountain is a little more costly than some other bootcamp options I considered, but they seem to invest quite a lot into helping alumni get jobs. That is a very valuable asset to have, which is why I went with them even without taking advantage of the student housing. You will get out of DevMountain as much as you put in.
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Tanner Smith
Great Experience
DevMountain was an awesome experience and I learned a ton! It was like a fire hose to my mouth the entire time but it was really good. The mentors are great and they give you a lot of great knowledge. It wasn't perfect and they can improve in areas, but for 13 weeks, I have never learned so much that fast in my entire life. Also they do help alot with job prep and job hunting which is great!
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Devin Wilcox
Didn’t work for me
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I don’t like giving bad reviews and this is not meant to put down DevMountain in any way, but I had a really hard time with this program and I seriously regret starting it. I tried to work 3 different part-time jobs and do this full time (twice), and even tried doing the evening courses after, but felt like I kept getting stuck after a few weeks of each retry. It’s difficult to support a family and do the immersive courses. Everyone else seemed to soar through the courses and it didn’t seem to come naturally to me like it did others. I’m still in a lot of debt with DevMountain that I don’t think I’ll be able to pay off anytime soon. I don’t want to blame anyone at DevMountain particularly because I felt like I lot of the instructors are nice people, they have a sincere desire to help you and a willingness to sit down with you. Despite this, I feel like some people (while they may be EXPERT coders) are not able to teach as well as they are able to code to help others learn.
The nice thing about DevMountain is the fun environment, the people you meet, the nice, fun instructors and the professionalism they maintain. Jeremy is a smart guy and I really enjoyed his lectures. They really will try to help you if you’re struggling, but for me personally, I still had a tough time even with help.
Before you join DevMountains immersive courses (and I wish someone had told me this) make sure of a few things:
1. Make sure that You can afford to NOT work for the full 12-week course. You MUST be able to focus completely on the courses!
2. Study as much code as you possibly can before you start. Make your LIFE about code!
3. You are responsible for your learning here. While you can get help if you’re confused, YOU need to make sure you are caught up on assignments and not fall behind. My work made that extremely difficult and burned me out.
4. Make sure you have a decent computer (windows or Mac are fine)
5. They cannot guarantee you a job. And you will have to start paying VERY expensive tuition fees once (and if) you graduate. I’m having to pay $400 a month even though I’m not graduated.
Again, I won’t tell anyone to NOT go to DevMountain because they are awesome! But please keep these things in mind if you’re considering attending.
My review is not to put DevMountain down, but maybe it will give them some insight on how to help others in the future that did not succeed due to unusual circumstances like my own.
Do your research!
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Vann Vaughan
Best Decision Ever
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DevMountain was one of the greatest decisions that I ever made by far. I was interested in becoming a developer in early 2017 and began researching bootcamps in the area after seeing some advertisements. Ultimately I decided on DevMountain after visiting their campus in Dallas and met the team as well as some of the students. During my experience, they were EXTREMELY supportive of my every step and made sure that I was more than ready to continue on to each lesson. They never leave a student behind and if you are not doing well, they are there for you with plenty of options to make sure you reach your goal. This is why I am a successfully emplyoed Software Engineer for Beck Technology.
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Paul Polzer
^_^
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The first 10 weeks of my experience at Dev Mountain were a breeze. It was hard work, but I really enjoyed it. I loved the atmopshere, the teachers, and the entire experience as a whole. I met so many amazing, kind, and wonderful people there. Everyone was focused on learning as much as they could.
The last 3 weeks of school, I had a very negative experience, but there were good people working there that helped me through it. They saw my frustration and asked me for feedback and eagerly listened to me. The staff there really care about what they are doing. They are always working on improving things, and they put their hearts into that school and it shows. The negative experience I had there taught me the most, helped to prepare me for the future, and ultimately played a largely significant role in landing me a job.
Are you tired of your current job?
Do you wake up every day thinking "I wish things could change"? (that is the nice way of putting it)
DevMountain can change all of that for you.
Bottom line... DevMountain gets it done.
Six months ago I left my teaching job in Japan to learn how to code computers, and now I have the best job I've ever had. It's night and day. I'm still in shock from the change and I feel so lucky. I invested X sum of money in order to have a job in the tech industry, and DevMountain delivered in full.
On top of that, there was zero transition for me from school to job. Everything that I was doing at DevMountain is exactly what I am doing now. That is because the people at that school know the industry. When I say that they will prepare you for a development job, I really mean it. Walking in on my first day of work felt like DevMountain the sequel. DevMountain 2: the search for more money.
DevMountain is not going to coddle you, hold your hand, and have some instant job lined up for you when you graduate. They teach you how to do everything you need to get a job and then you have to do the work. You have to put in the time. You have to be determined to make it work. If you are, and you put in the effort, DevMountain will get you where you want to be. They fulfill their end of the deal for sure.
If you go there, just remember, you are not competing with anyone. Ignore all the talk about how "that guy" or "that girl" is the greatest coder on the planet and scored 350 kabillion points on his or her test and now works for Google "Holy cow man!" It is human nature to compete, and jockey for position and social-standing, and DevMountain can feel highly-competitive in that regard, but there is no need to feel any pressure to be "da best coder evar" because are plenty of jobs in this industry for people that have the motivation and drive to go after them. If you don't believe me, just look at Linked-In or Glassdoor or whatever and see for yourself. Just focus on your studies, do your best, never give up, and you will have a very high likeliness of succeeding.
If you want a job, then signup with DevMountain. Most the people that I have stayed in touch with after school now have jobs in the industry.
If you are not serious about this, and you're willing to allow your dream of having a better life and a great career get crushed by carpet fungus or whatever, then don't even bother. DevMountain is for serious people. I have a highly severe allergy to dustmites and I'm a DevMountain grad. If you are serious about this, you'll make it work, and DevMountain will be right there with you to help you through it. They are highly accommodating.
Thank you for helping to change my life DevMountain. I'm seriously grateful. Every moment of energy you spent on teaching me and helping me I'm very appreciative.
I highly recommend this school to anyone that wants a job in the software industry.
Five stars all across the board.
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Scott Serage
DevMountain - Your path to success
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DevMountain was exactly what I needed to take my coding skills to the next level. After only 13 weeks of attending I am now able to create full stack web applications. In addition to this, I have learned valuable skills for the web industry that include interviewing and planning techniques. At DevMountain I was able to learn primarily about ReactJS, NodeJS, and ExpressJS as well as HTML5, CSS, SASS/SCSS, Jest, AngularJS, and Postman. With these skills anyone can make their own web applications and will become a valuable asset to any web industry. I'm grateful for the experience I learned there as well as the wonderful help from instructors, mentors and staff. DevMountain is active in helping its students that have passed its course to landing jobs in the industry. In short, if you are looking to get into the industry in the most time efficient and productive manner look no further than DevMountain. -
Jared Parker
Full-time Web Development Program
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The instructors and mentors are all very knowledgeable and very helpful. The 24/7 access to the Provo campus is invaluable, because it provides a place for you to work on both personal projects and group projects. The course material is relevant and put together very well. The weekly surveys that DevMountain has you fill out are not an item on their checklist, they do listen to their students and make timely adjustments according to survey data. Although I didn't require housing while going to DevMountain, I was grateful that they provide free housing because it improves the general atmosphere of the classroom (people are able to focus on studying, not commuting). As a final note their team that assists graduates with finding positions in the industry are excellent. They have spent a remarkable amount of time with me after I have graduated and helped me find several new leads for employment. My experience with DevMountain was very positive and I would recommend it to anyone who is willing to work hard to improve their life.
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Caleb Strong
Why it was worth it.
To be honest, I've never been one for long reviews, nor am I a wordy person, so to put it simply:
-DevMountain taught me how to think like a programmer.
-Mentors were actively interested and answered my questions/gave me hope I could achieve the same (most were recent graduates)
-It showed me where/how to get my foot in the door.
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Trevor
Hard work pays off
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DevMountain put me on the right track to be successful in a field that I have been passionate about for the longest time.
I did a stint at University going to for a CS degree but I got 'lifed' pretty hard and had to drop out. After dragging my feet for awhile I decided to be done with just having a job and start an actual career doing what I wanted to do. I tried some online tutorials and courses but I just couldn't get into them as much as I needed to.
Enter DevMtn.
When you think of the term 'bootcamp' you might think of what you see in the movies: A drill sergeant yelling in your face about some little detail the soldier overlooked. Well I hate to break it to you, DevMountain is nothing like that. The instructors and mentors are nothing but encouraging and helpful.
The best part (in my opinion) about the way the curriculum is set up is that you are accountable for your own learning and success. You have to put in the extra work if you want to get everything out of the cohort you can. That might mean coming to class outside of the regular 9-5 hours. That might mean staying in on a saturday night when all of your friends are going out because you have no idea what a closure is yet (personal experience on that one).Learning to become a developer isn't something that you can do by just getting talked at for 8 hours a day. You have to go out and build things and try things. DevMountain is set up to where every single day you will do a project (or two!), and each time you start a project it is build upon the conceptual foundation that was laid in previous days.
Would I reccomend DevMountain? Ten times over. There is nothing better than growing as a developer along side a group of others that are in your exact same shoes with instructors and mentors there to help you along the way. -
Terry Dinh
Student
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I was very skeptical about bootcamps since you're not getting a certificate or anything to really prove your skills but after going through the program it completely changed my perspective about bootcamps! It was a little rough in the beginning because of the unorganization but I took a lot away from the program regardless. It definitely pushed me a lot, helped expand my network, and gave me the tools I needed to learn and think like a developer. Most everyone I've spoken to had wish they were more prepared before doing this program and you most definitely need to be at a certain level with javascript before doing a bootcamp. I would highly recommend doing a bootcamp once you're decent with javascript, until then you should just get better at it. You get as much as you put into the program, I would highly recommend this program! Also they include housing in their tuition which helps out A LOT since you live in the same building where you work/learn so no distractions or traffic! Everyone at the program is super friendly and very welcoming.
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Taylor
Great Bootcamp
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The program was great! I can not use any other descriptive words because great is the only thing that comes to mind. The course was great, the instructors were great, my time there was great.
I got to build several apps that all got increasingly complex over time. I also liked how I could ask any questions to the instructors or mentors or even students in the program if I was getting stuck on code and they would be as helpful as they could.
The mentoring afternoon hours were fun and super effective. We would learn about things that are outside the material because it was a customized mentor session, basically everyday. Speaking and asking the instructors any questions on your mind, even if you don't understand most of what happens, is such a great way to learn.
The group project is awesome because it allows you to apply all of what you learned and beyond as well as working in a team of 4-5 students to build it which gives sense on how web developers work in their daily lives.
I would recommend this program to other people who want to not only learn how to code, but how to become a true web developer.
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Chance
Through Review of Expectations
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Know that I had a great experience at DevMountain, so this is coming from someone who had a positively life changing experience and outcome.
Pretty much everything that you read up on DevMountain is true, and so your general expectations of the course will be met. But that is only if your expectation is met with hard work ethic. There were a few things that weren't what I expected going into the course. I would honestly say that some of these things are bootcamp expectations and not specifically just DevMountain expectations.
-Learn how to learn. Yes, I wish there were more one-on-one instruction (dont we all want a personal help buddy 24/7) but understand that coding is a primarily self-driven activity. The mentors are like TAs, and they are there to help you through your most pressing issues, but something I quickly realized was that I needed to learn how to learn. How to teach myself more than anything.
- Pair programming is hard. Sometimes you are paired with someone unlike you. Some who does things differently than the way of doing things. For example, someone who is outgoing, patient, and a fast coder, vs someone who is a slower programmer, and takes more time. This happened from time to time and it was frustrating.
- Fast learning and raw logical-thinking speed. People have different abilities and therefore catch on quicker than others. Just know some people get things right away, and others dont.
- There is no silver platter. What I have noticed is that there are some students who just don't want to put in work, studying, practice, and mastery to get to a point of being successful. There is no silver platter. I learned this on the second day of class when I saw people complaining about work they were asked to do.
- You will get frustrated. The frustration dragged me down mentally, and my attitude totally shifted on days when this happened. But I will say, I improved at my "teamwork" and collaborative abilities through the whole course. But if you're the kind of person who can weather these sorts of things and keep your head up, then good on ya. I think you are more built for a bootcamp.
-The tech culture suits some people and it doesn't suit others. My particular personality jived with it really well. I am very interested in tech. I have heard the tech culture being compared to the "TJ" type by myers-briggs classification.
- You will actually have a fun time. In general, from what I've observed, DevMountain students have an awesome time there. Socially, culturally, and within the education. It is a great environment. Though overworked and mentally drained, you will really bond closely with your fellow class mates and learn from each other.
Overall, DevMountain is definitely a fantastic choice for a bootcamp, and you can't go wrong with it. Hopefully, my assumptions and expectations that were off will be helpful for all future DevMountain students.
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Von Hill
Great learning environment
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Pros:
Awesome facilities
Experienced instructors who know how to teach
Got my money’s worth
Cons:
I expected them to have more connections with businesses looking for designers. All of the interviews I got after the course were jobs I found and applied to on my own.
Conclusion, you will learn a lot and are given the opportunity to challenge yourself. If you are expecting a job to be handed to you, you are wrong. I worked very hard in class and got my money’s worth. As far as job hunting, they help you polish your resume and portfolio, but they have no inside connections to provide for jobs. The only jobs they ever referred us to were jobs that could be searched for online and open to anyone.
Overall, I would recommend devMountain to anyone . It is one of the best boot camps available
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Stan Nelson
Great curriculum, our cohort seemed an afterthought
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The curriculum was great and easy to follow, although the majority of the exercises were all "copy and paste and see if it works" types of projects. Multiple times during our cohort, we either didn't have an instructor show up, or they had to text/call one of the cohort managers in order to cover.
The biggest kicker was the Demo Day that we were supposed to have at the end of the course—never happened. A few months after we were originally scheduled to have our Demo Day, they finally had one with our cohort and another combined. I, unfortunately, wasn't able to make it due to my daughter being born. Honestly, it seemed like I paid a few thousand dollars to fork public repos on GitHub and have an instructor (most of the time) walk me through Codecademy but in a classroom setting.
Maybe the full-time cohorts are better than the part-time cohorts, but ours felt like an afterthought.
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Nathan Turner
Software Engineer
This bootcamp was awesome. The mentors really cared about us and were there to help. The career help people were great. They really focused on making us marketeable for when we finished the course. The instructors are industry pros which helped give a good perspective.
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Eric
DevMountain was solid
Very intense, fast paced learning. They offered housing included in tuition as well. Learned a lot, but mostly learned how to teach myself new technology.
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Bobby Anderson
Great ROI if you put in the effort
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First and foremost, don't expect a job out of this course. YOU have to EARN it. And the learning doesn't end when the course does.
I was in the after hours cohort, and time was limited. There was simply not enough time in class to do everything you have to do to get the most out of it. But, with effort, determination, and sacrifice, I was able to boost my career significantly.If you are serious about changing your career and are wiling to put the effort into it, then this program will help you get there.
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Chris Gagnier
Dev Mountain AH Web Dev
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In my experience in this class it is great for 2 types of students, those already working in tech, and those who are unemployed and can devote 10-12 hours a day to the coursework. Unfortunately I didn't fit either profile. I went into the class very computer literate (worked in graphic design for years), but was quickly lost and overwhelmed. The videos were usually 2-3 hours, couple that with full time employment, it didn't leave much time for actual coding. I finished the course completely lost. I spoke to the instuctors (who were great btw), and they advised me to keep working and learning. I attended class often during the next cohort, and continued working on my own. My hope was that I would be able to get to a point that I could "join" a group project with a future cohort. However the next class totally changed the cirriculum and I feel that is no longer an option without spending months learning another language. Without completing badging (which requires a group project) Dev Mountain will not give any job placement assistance. The mentors were awesome and very willing to offer assistance, however the cohorts start up as soon as one finishes, so they quickly become busy helping the current students.
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Kyle H.
DevMountain was well worth it!
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I had a hard time deciding on whether I should do a bootcamp or not. I had seen my brother in law excel in his career as a web developer and had talked his ear off about getting into the field. I finally decided a bootcamp would be the best thing for me. When I actually started researching bootcamp options, DevMountain was by far the best option. Their outcomes, curriculum, and free housing stood out to me.
I have now finished their web development program. I put in a ton of work. But I am happy to say I have 3 job offers, and I am literally talking with my brother in law about which one I should take as I type this. I think even he is impressed with my progress over the last 3 months.
I would definitely recommend DevMountain!
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Clay
Relative experience
I loved my time here and learned more than a full year of CS at a university.
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Justin B.
Hard Work Pays off, Life Changing
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Sometimes it is hard to trust reviews, but I came to this site before I went to DevMountain and I honestly think the good reviews about DevMountain on here are true.
I went through the DevMountain web dev program and it was by far the best educational experience I have ever had. Everyone I went through the program with along with all of the instructors and staff members went above and beyond to make the program the best. Highly reccommend it.
It was a rigorous 12 weeks and took a good deal of preparation leading up to it but overall it was definitely worth it.
I would suggest counting on putting in a ton of hard work, because you get what you put in. I am now working at an awesome startup company and I owe it all to DevMountain.
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Sean C.
Web Development Immersive Experience
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DevMountain Dallas really put me in my place because I thought I knew everything there was to know about web development. 1 week into it, little did I know anything about the skills they taught. They definitely humbled me. They gave me skills that I didn’t know about or existed. I have to admit that I’ve code at more DevMountain than my university or learning on my own. They prepare me for the real world experience and the future. I don’t regret anything and feel like a different person than I did 3 months ago. I met a bunch of people that have the same passion as I do. I’ve learn so much from them. One thing I wish I could have done different was take advantage of the free housing. Its easy to wake up and come down stairs to code. Best decision I made for my career. #DM6 Rules!
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John D'Agostino
There's no catch
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I graduated from DevMountain and found a web developer job within 3 weeks.
A little background- the last few years I've worked in a few customer service positions, because with a Bachelor's in Communication, what else could I do? I was naive in college, I thought getting any Bachelor's degree would land me a good paying job eventually- but it took me a few years to realize I wasn't going to make more than 30k a year.
Twenty-sex years old and I still lived with my parents. I was depressed and I felt trapped. I wasn't skilled at anything that made me money. The things I loved were music, writing, vlogging- all fine things for hobbies. None of that was going to make me money.
I realized I needed a skill in order to make money, and I got to a point where I didn't care what it was. I met with several advisors from several different schools regarding a range of potential occupations: radiology, psychology, arboriculture, speech pathology, and so on. But every single potential occupation was going to take a number of years to complete, and I wasn't sure I wanted to do any of them.
I eventually stumbled onto FreeCodeCamp.com. I started it a little pessimistically- I was expecting to eventually not enjoy it. But that moment never happened. Within a couple of months, I was losing track of time trying to figure out a Javascript algorithm, and then I'd be working on it during my lunch break the next day at work.
I then found out about coding bootcamps, and I chose DevMountain based off a YouTuber's (TheEngineeredTruth) rave reviews of it. And the whole time, I was looking for a catch. How could 3 months be long enough? How can 10k cover everything including the housing? There has to be a catch.
There is none.
The course here is hard. Of course. But it's also fun for the right people. Make sure you love doing this. If you can make it to the Advanced Javascript Algorithms section of FreeCodeCamp.com and you're loving what you're doing- sign up for DevMountain.
If you're hesitant because it's only 3 months, so was I. If you're hesitant because of it's low cost, so was I. But does this program work? Refer to the first sentence of this post.
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Juli C.
Best Coding Bootcamp - Illuminating Experience
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My experience with DevMountain was remarkable. During the application process they were so responsive and answered every one of my questions. Much better than any other Bootcamp I spoke with.
During class I felt like their whole team from instructors, to counselors, to mentors, to interns cared and helped in every aspect. Their job and success staff gave tremendous assistance. I can not thank my mentors and instructors enough.
A bootcamp is no easy task. In fact, it was very difficult but everyone at DevMountain was so reassuring. From the first day of learning git up til the last day during group and personal projects, I felt super comfortable learning there.
I did a ton of research before choosing a bootcamp, and even fact-checked some of the things DevMountain was saying. I was pretty impressed through out the whole process and highly recommend the school!
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Loren Pabst
What is DevMountain Like
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I went through the program at the same time as another family member, and we both found it very rewarding. I was nervous to start a program that required me to quit my job and drop everything for 3 months straight, especially since I didn't personally know anyone that had gone through the course.
Now, having been through, if I had to go back and make the decision again, I would go back through again, 100%. $11,000 is a lot of money, but the financing was super easy. I applied for a loan and got approved in like an hour. Not working for three months was hard, but we just lived on our savings. It more than makes up for it when you get a job. Coming out of the boot camp you can expect a starting salary of around $45,000 - $55,000, with raises every few months. That's just the way the industry is right now.
DevMountain more than prepared me for the workplace. Within two weeks of graduating, I had over 10 interviews, and 2 job offers. There is still a lot to learn after graduating, you won't come out as an expert, but you WILL come out with some great portfolio pieces, and with the skills to build some incredible websites!
Not everything was perfect, some of the coursework is hard to follow at times, and the concepts are definitely complex. I went in with a little bit of programming experience, and found the course wasn't too difficult at all. Some of my friends that have gone through went in with NO previous experience, and found the course more challenging, but still made it through just fine, graduated just fine, and have seen success.
The real story is - the course gives you whatever you put into it. If you goof off the whole time, you won't learn much. If you invest your time and effort, you will learn a TON. Learning at DevMountain was great because you are surrounded by talented people who know what they're doing. Questions are easy to find answers to, because someone around you usually has experience with whatever obstacle you have come across.
If you like problem solving, and are ok putting in time and effort to work through difficult concepts, I would recommend this course to you 100%. If problem solving frustrates you, or putting in a lot of time and effort to learning new things is hard for you, I would probably say don't go to DevMountain. Or any boot camp for that matter.
Last thoughts - The last few weeks of the course, DevMountain also helps you with job prep. They teach you how to structure your resume and portfolio, they teach you great tools for interviewing, and they have an actual method you will learn for applying to jobs and reaching out to employers in a successful manner. I am very appreciative for all of the time and effort they put into helping ME find a job.
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Kennedy
Wish I knew about them eariler
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Attending DevMountain was such a great experience. The instructors were super helpful and the atomosphere had such a great vibe. You literally eat, sleep and breathe code. I loved how I had 24/7 access to the campus. So on nights when I couldn't sleep (which was many) it was nice being able to head over to the campus and get to work. The teaching style at DevMountain is super hands-on and always having a mentor around was awesome because I had A LOT of questions! All in all, my only regret was that I didn't sign up sooner. I sat on this decision way too long and now realize how much time I've lost!
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Rebecca
Best decision I ever made!
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After my second year of college, I decided it wasn't write for me. For quite some time before that, I had been looking into many different bootcamps in my area. I knew that I wanted to be a developer and didn't want to keep spending a fortune on college. After months of research, I decided to pull the trigger on DevMountain. I attended their Provo campus and was amazed at how fun learning could be. Everybody around me was working super hard, but at the same time having a lot of fun while doing it. I had a better social experience in my 3 months at DevMountain than my 2 years at college.
Fast forward to 2 months later, I just landed my first job as a Junior Developer making a great income and absolutely loving my job. Jeremy (the lead teacher) was such an awesome instuctor and mentor to me, I couldn't be more happy with my expierience at DevMountain. 5 stars!
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Choose Mark Price
iOS Immersive- If you are expecting a job...
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Like many students looking into development bootcamps, I was interested in coding, wanted to pursue a new career but didn't want to go back to college to get an engineering degree.
I graduated from Dev Mountain in 2016.
If you're attending with the goal of getting a job immediately afterwards or have anyone other than yourself to support, this is important to know.
Pros
- the classmates I had and the mentors were genuinely nice people. I couldn't think of a nicer group of people to be around.
- you will learn to code (but no more than if you took a udemy or devslopes course for much cheaper). If you don't understand a week of material, they let your repeat (within reason) until you do.
- free snacks and 24/7 access to code at Dev Mtn. campus alongside other developers
Cons
Long term unemployment
- Save up for 6 months at least. You are taking at least 3-4 months to attend the program. Add 3-4 more months looking for a job on top of that, if you're even able to find an iOS job. Only one of the people in my cohort was able to find a full time position right away as an iOS developer and he had an engineering background. One or two found internships after three months of being unemployed. The rest are still looking or took non-development jobs to support themselves. Most employers do not want to hire someone who has only been coding for 3-4 months and coding bootcamps still do not have the legitimacy of a Computer Science degree and you are competing for jobs with CS majors who have taught themselves iOS. Also, most iOS jobs posted online are from recruiters who will not give you the time of day if you don't have experience.
- You will not learn everything you need to get an iOS job
- Because the program is so short, they will only teach you the Swift programming language in the iOS course but Swift is only 2 years old and most apps and code bases have been written in Objective C. They only spend a week on Objective C which means you will need to teach the language yourself. Additionally, the first 6 weeks you wlll be taught. The next 6 weeks, you work on projects.
- Understanding basic computer science principles (that stuff they teach in a CS degree) is important and something that is going to be tested in job interviews. These are not covered in any depth. There are stretch problems for 1 hr each day that attempt to teach them but this not enough.
- To land a job in iOS, you need a portfolio of apps you have developed on your own. Much of the curriculum is spent building basic apps like your Notes app on your iphone or an Instagram clone. You have 1 personal project which you work on for 3 weeks and another group project which you work on for an additional 3 weeks. Again, not enough. I know many in my cohort who spent the next few months post-graduation developing more apps for their portfolio and they still do not have jobs.
Instructors
- You are paying 10K to be taught by other students. The mentors I had were wonderful but they are usually students from prior semesters who just learned the material themselves a year prior. Once a week, you will be taught by a consummate professional in the industry and occasionally you will have guest lecturers.
Lack of real world/on the job experience
Again, there is only so much that can be covered in 6 weeks of teaching...
- Programming methodologies like scrum, agile, kanban were not practiced.
- Using git (the way multiple developers can work on a single project at the same time) was covered for one day, and it is really important when you're actually working.
I felt compelled to write this review because before I went to Dev Mountain I came on this site. The high ranking convinced me there was nothing to worry about. I see a ton of positive reviews on here from people who attended the web development program which appears to be a more succesful program than iOS (hopefully these individuals have landed jobs). Half of my cohort was from Utah, the rest including myself were from out of state where Dev Mountain is not well known. Both groups have had a difficult time landing full time paid jobs. I'm not sure how the school reports job placement statistics but perhaps they lump web dev and iOS together to support their placement rates? The good news is that this school is now reporting to the Council on Integrity in Results Reporting (cirr.org). Unfortunately, we did not reap the benefits of this report but future prospective students will. Make sure to go on cirr.org and check placement rates before you apply.
Moral of the story- This bootcamp is an intro to iOS development. If you need a job shortly after graduation, save your $10K, keep your day job, buy the $20 course on Udemy/Devslopes, take advantage of courses on iTunes U, build up a portfolio of mobile apps, study up on your own, and then apply for jobs.
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Mike Curtis
A Leap of Rewarding Faith
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My story is one that many may relate to. For the past 15 years, I had been working in a career not related to UX design. To boot, I had been with the exact same company for those 15 years. While I had dabbled in my career with many elements of user experience, I didn't even know the industry existed.
Last year, around November of 2016, I began to explore options to better my career and my family situation. A friend in my neighborhood recommended the web development course at DevMountain. His employer sent him through the after-hours program and he loved it. I thought to myself, "I could never learn Javascript!" I started doing some research on it, figured that I could at least look into it. My friend gave me his Javascript book and I began reading. Around the same time, DevMountain posted an open-house meetup at their Salt Lake location. I signed up and went to the meetup to learn more. I still wasn't sure, but I knew I wanted a change.
When I showed up for the meetup at DevMountain, to my surprise, it was not a web developer meetup, it was to introduce their UX Immersive Design course. "What in the world is UX", I thought. As I listened, I was completely sold. This is what I had been doing, at least in some small part, for the past 15 years... but I never had a way to define it! I went home, told the wife about it, and signed up for the course. This is where I began my, "leap of faith".
The immersive UX course started January 1st of 2017, so this meant I had to quit my job. I'm married and have two kids, so this was a nerve-racking decision to make. There was some pre-course work to do, which involved basic elements of UX, but it was nothing I couldn't handle. I was accepted into the program, left my job, and started out on my adventure.
What an absolutely incredible experience it was. Props must be given here to the instructor, Brandon. If it wasn't for him, there's no way I would have had the desire, ambition, or drive to push myself in this course. Brandon has so many acquaintances in the UX community that it felt like everyone in Salt Lake knew him... or of him. This is a huge plus to have in a teacher, especially when it comes to networking and job hunting.
The course material was definitely packed in there, but it had to be to fit into a three-month course. We covered UX principles, wireframing, sketching, research, interviews, prototyping, storyboarding, user flows, UX-related software, color theory, design principles, did creative exercises daily, did team projects and solo projects, and a host of other activities in my time there. I came out of the course with an online portfolio (personal website), a Linkedin profile, a resume, and three case studies to showcase to potential employers.
Another thing that helped tremendously was how our instructor brought in guest speakers continuously throughout the course. These speakers were working in industry, doing the exact same thing we'd be doing out there in the workplace. They shared their stories with us, taught us software tools, and left us with a strong impression of the passion they had working in user experience. This was crucial to me later on when DevMountain ended. I reached out to several of these guest speakers and asked them if I could job shadow them for a day. Every one of them was cordial and accepting and I was able to see firsthand how they work in their element.
After the course ended, I took a couple of weeks to be with my family and move houses, so it took me a bit to get going on the job search. When I did though, DevMountain was helpful in sending me job recommendations and introducing me to potential employers. It took me about three weeks to find a job, but the work I had done at DevMountain impressed employers during the interviews. I am now working at a very successful company here in Salt Lake City as a UX designer, primarily focused on their mobile iOS and Android offering. I absolutely love it and never would have imagined I'd be in this position a year ago. But, thanks to DevMountain, and a lot of hard work on my part, I'm a UX Designer!
I must interject here though that it does all come down to the work you put in during and after the course. If you don't treat finding a job like a full-time job, the job hunt can be that much harder and you'll get frustrated for sure.
The staff at DevMountain is amazing as well. Everyone I reached to was friendly and professional to me, whether in person or via email. I have met quite a few people now in my network of friends that have done DevMountain as well or are interested. I always recommend them to the school if they're on the fence about a bootcamp.
Now that I'm alumni, I'm looking forward to going back and doing the after-hours web dev course towards the end of this year! Wish me luck learning Javascript! If it's anything like the UX immersive course, I know I'll be successful.
Thanks DevMountain!
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Seth Sutherland
Student
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Come ready to work. DevMountain is for people who are proactive and WANT to learn to code and to learn how to teach themselves. Yes, the instructors are fantastic--they are almost always great teachers and explainers--but your success will be equivalent to the effort that you make to understand the concepts on your terms. I've had awesome experiences with the instructors, they always seem to have time for questions and advice. If you take the time to reach out to them and ask good questions they will help make your experience more than worth it. The mentors that are assigned to each class are awesome as well, super helpful and they know their stuff. It's a great environment. The people at DevMountain want to be there and almost all of them were commited to putting in the time and effort to succeed. Overall I had a fantastic, even life-changing experience. The material is super relevant--I feel like I got a lot of marketable skills that match up pretty well with a lot of job postings. Be ready to work just as hard and learn new skills after you graduate though, the camp is just the very start of becoming a developer or engineer. I give 5 stars without hesitation. I was pushed, encouraged (there is an awesome support system, just reach out!) and I'd do it again in a heart beat.
Now that I have graduated the support is still there and instructors and mentors are still awesome about answering questions, doing mock interviews and helping me with looking for a job.
Again, come ready to be proactive, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN SUCCESS, work hard and use all the resources they give you and you wont be dissapointed.
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Jeremiah
Awesome!
I really loved DevMountain. They helped me learn so much in so little time. The mentors are great. They do all they can to help you learn and succeed.
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Maddie B.
Best decision I've ever made
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DevMountain has been one of the most rewarding experiences I've had in my life. I decided I needed to change paths from studying illustration to something more technical, and I've always wanted to learn how to code. I was looking at another 3-4 years and a whole lot more than $10k in tuition, to obtain a CS degree. That's when I found DevMountain, and I'm so glad I did. I have learned more in the last 3 months than I have in school for 5 years combined. At DevMountain the housing is free while you attend, and they give you a mentor that can help you learn every step of the way. DevMountain is also 100% willing to work with you on whatever learning style works best for you. If you need to take more time to learn certain subjects, they can place you on a different track, so that you don't fall behind. They also won't charge you if you need to take more time. Their fee is to teach you a certain set of skills, however long it takes you to learn them. That being said, you need to be willing to work hard. If the lead mentors know you are working hard, they will do everything in their power to help you succeed.
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Niall Cummins
Best Decision of my Life
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I attended DevMountain from January 2nd through March 31st of 2017. I did the immersive web development bootcamp in Provo. I stayed in the housing, which is an amazing value. Every room has a decent sized bed, and some have desks. The apartment I stayed in was furnished with a couch, a love seat, and a dining table with some chairs. There was also plenty of dishes and cooking ware for the 3 of us in my apartment.
The actual class was amazing, yet exhausting. I didn't know humans were capable of learning so much in such a short amount of time until I came here. It may sound overwhelming, but there are plenty of resources there that you can take advantage of to help you stay afloat.
The Provo campus is filled with fun. DevMountain has a game night every other friday night where all of the students get together to play games and have fun. There is also free breakfast on Fridays. At graduation, they usually throw a huge party called a hackathon that is a lot of fun. The campus includes foosball and ping pong tables too, which are nice to use when you need a break every couple hours.
The curriculum is very in depth. It's probably more than you need to know to find a junior level position. I learned Angular, Angular 2, And React while I was at DevMountain. Angular 2 was not part of the official curriculum when I went there, but one of the isntructors helped me to teach it to myself for my personal project.
I couldn't reccomend DevMountain more. Less than three weeks after graduation, I was hired as a Junior developer with a 60k/yr salary. It was a life changing experience.
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Corey Harville
Awesome Experience!
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This was the best learning experience of my life! I've had some college and the full-immersion teaching/learning model was the best. Another reason this was the best experience for me is the staff. EXCELLENCE, bar none, is how I would describe them. From the full-time staff to the visiting teachers and alumni guest speakers to the mentors, I always had the support that I needed when I needed it. The final reason why I feel that DevMountain gave me the best experience is because of the curriculum. The frameworks, libraries, and languages being taught by DevMountain are the exact ones needed in the job market right now to be successful. My only negative critique is job assistance. I was expecting more direct leads in the nearby job market to companies looking and willing to hire Jr. Developers. However, with an abundance of bootcamp grads and seemingly most companies' aversion to hiring Jr. Developers, the job market would have been much more easily navigated had there been better support finding jobs. This seems to be changing with the newly formatted Job Fair being held on 1 June 2017. It should feature a collection of local companies looking to hire Jr. Devs so I am hopefully optimistic that the job assistance fortunes of recent DevMtn grads and current students will be getting MUCH better!
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Matthew Langford
Amazing Experience
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After spending hours researching bootcamps in the area and ones that were teaching the most relevant frameworks and libraries, I chose Devmountain. Me and two of my brothers signed up together and we really gave it our all. I had some prior coding experience from college and both of my brothers have never coded before, so I had a little edge going in and after the first few weeks, It felt like we were all near the same level.
My advice to anyone thinking of attending. Just dive in and don't look back, fair warning though, If you want to succeed at this boot camp you have to go all in, we were there 10-11 hours a day 5 days a week and coding at home on the weekends. It wasn't hard to do because the instructors are very motivating and the mentors are very good at helping you figure out the solution together, rather than simply giving you the answers.
If you want all in results you have to give all in effort, it's that simple.
I am working in the industry already, my younger brother is interviewing like crazy, and my other brother graduates in 2 weeks. Hands down, best decision ever.
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Corey McGarr
Fantastic!
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Anyone looking to begin their journey into web development should seriously consider DevMountain. The staff is top-knotch and the curriculum is designed to cram the highest possible amount of learning and topics into a very short period of time.
It is not an easy course, and you will be expected to take initiative and actively engage with the content EVERY DAY, but you will get out what you put into it. The format of the course works if you are serious about learning.
I would recommend DevMountain to anyone.
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Tyson Taylor
Put in the work
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My experience at DevMountain was fantastic. I met some great people, some of my closest friends have come out of my bootcamp experience. There is plenty of opportunity for questions and mentorship. The leadership is top-notch. This isn't a free pass into a new career. No bootcamp can guarantee you success in finding a job. Your success is directly correlated with the amount of effort you put into your pre-course preparations. Do the work, do extra work. You should be coming into a bootcamp experience with a solid grasp of the fundamentals.
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Cameron
An Excellent Institution
This was a great opportunity for me to make a career change. I was working 50+ hours in the finance industry on a career path I didn't want to pursue.
Dev Mountain gave me a second life. I am in an industry that I love, doing what I love every day.