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I did not get a good experience either in their PREP COURSE. I did the codecademy (Maybe that's not a hard work for some of the students ), but I thought their material are hard to understand. I did ask the mentor, but they don't explain it well. I am sorry, but I have to say this.
While the team is nice enough, no one has any idea how to teach. They don't prepare logical lesson plans, they can't answer questions clearly and simply--newbies really don't stand a chance. Some students know what they're doing and, of course, they have to let you know it by asking really granular questions that don't edify anyone. I really, really wish I could be more positive because I really believe in the mission, but I was left feeling frustrated and disappointed. For all the "assistance" actually give you, you might as well go with Lynda.com
Telegraph Academy--please get it together. This could be a really good program, but it needs quality instruction.
many of the core instructors have no real software engineer experience (take a look at linkedin for yourself). new grads from the first cohort are now teaching the curriculum which is a travesty because they barely have a grasp on what's going on and you can tell with how they answer questions. i'm worried about the future of this school. i recommend going to another one of the hack reactor schools if your going to spend $18,000 until they hire people with real experience.
I think having graduate acting as instructors is not necessarily a problem per se. Hack Reactor too employs graduates as lecturers. OTH, the lead instructor at HR is an experienced veteran software engineer who can step in and fill in the gaps when necessary.
Telegraph Academy too can certainly benefit from the presence and leadership of an experienced lead instructor. I believe both of TA's co-founders have had industry experiences. It would be nice if they can be more involved in the teachings and trouble shootings.
well let's take a look at the instructor's real world software engineer "experience" according to linkedin:
preston = one month contract
bianca = one to three month contracts
albrey = none
claire = none
jameel = none
they often have opinions of "well this is what the real world is like", but have they held any real world jobs? nope. if you want to go there, be my guest. they have a great mission, but don't have the staff needed to carry it out. there are better alternatives for this kind of money considering their job stats are the worse than hack reactor, remote beta, and makersquare. why just watch recorded lectures from hack reactor when you can go there
If I could do it over I would have just attended Hack Reactor. I'll start by saying that I am now an employed software engineer. However, this a review of the school and not my own personal outcomes. The cost of attendance is the same as hack reactor, but this equal cost does not equate to equal quality. Since it labels itself as the premier coding bootcamp for people of color and underrepresented groups, it seems as though it also lowers the standards of admission if you fit into one of those profiles. As it stands, the job placement rate is abysmal and the salaries of the few that do have jobs are considerably less than Hack Reactor graduates. I don't know a single graduate who commanded a six figure salary that was also a minority or member of the lgbtq community. All the people who have written highly rated reviews either drink the kool aid or ended up employed by the school, and have all quit once they were no longer jaded by the false sense of community being around people belonging to other under represented with the same prospects of becoming a software engineer. With the exception of Marc, there isn't a single instructor present who has had any experience in the field that they are teaching outside of a few month to month contract gigs. Just another copycat bootcamp trying to target a new demographic. Don't forget that this is a for-profit business, forget the happy-go-lucky attitude and mission of diversifying tech. They want your $20,000 and I could have spent mine wiser.
Cost is equal to Hack Reactor, educational quality is not
Weak job placement and salaries
Predatory business model
Response From: Albrey Brown of Telegraph Academy
- Albrey Brown, Cofounder of Telegraph Academy
Before joining Telegraph Academy, I was in Chicago and had no coding experience. It was laughable by my family that I was thinking about moving 2400 miles away to go some school that would teach me how to code and make 6 figures in 12 weeks. What was even more laughable was that I was going to quit my job with a decent salary, empty my savings, and sell my belongings to do so. But I did it, and I would make the same decision if given a change to redo it.
Here's why: In order to be accepted, one must know the basics and pass a difficult entry exam administered by all of the Reactor Core schools (Hack Reactor, Makers Square, Telegraph Academy). I had no idea what I was doing, but after attending TGA's prep program, I was accepted into all of the Reactor Core schools. I decided to go with TGA because of its mission, student-to-instructor ratio, and its location (Berkeley is cheaper than SF).
Leaving everything back home was hard, but the minute I stepped into TGA, I felt ready to get to work. There is an atmosphere at TGA that I've never seen. Its full of people that are passionate about learning and instructors passionate about teaching. The cofounders are awesome and what they have created at TGA is something like a unicorn.
All-in-all, it was a great experience for me and my classmates. We all had fun together and created some really cool applications. If you're considering TGA, strap your self in and get ready to change your life.
I attended their livestream prep program. I didn't care for the instructor. To me it felt like they were moving very quickly and didn't press the students who had a thumbs-down or side-thumbs enough. Even without seeing the attendees it seemed the class was confused sometimes based on their silence and lack of comments/questions.
Also there was an instance where someone was asking questions they should have learned from codeacademy, which was required before starting. That wasted time where someone else could have asked a question that was relevant to everyone.
Also, livestreamers could not hear attendees (other than speaker) at all and speaker never repeated questions attendees gave so livestreamers had to guess the question based on the answer the speaker gave, which is subpar if you ask me.
I live-streamed and there were some pros and cons. First, let me begin by saying this is a Beta course. I think I was the 2nd class to go through this course. What they done so far is awesome.
Pros: great structure, lecture material, setup, pace, pricing
The classes are streamed via a conference room and we chat with the TA's and other students via the slack app. Each night we run through slides, then we have practice exercises that are assigned to reinforce what we just learned. The exercises are great and if you want, you can link up with another student to pair program. They give us plenty of resources to do so. I learned so much through the 4 weeks. There were lectures from students at hack reactor and some of the teachers are really really awesome. The classes almost always started on time and never ran over the alotted period. And for a class of this type, this is the cheapest one that I've found. They are really on the right path and doing something special. Telegraph Academy is new, but they are already enrolling students in the full bootcamp while running a prep course as well. I see good things for this school.
Cons: Speed, feeling left out, sound
At some times, the teacher or speaker just blasts through the slides. For example, one night the lecture was over in 20 mins...I thought this was a 3hr/day class?? For the live-streamers, you may have a tough time getting questions answered. The teachers don't see your questions so when they ask the class are there any questions, they usually aren't referring to live-streamers. The TA's are there to answer questions, but with so many students, it may take a while to get an answer which sucks because the lecture is still moving and you have no clue of what's going on. Also, after the lecture is over, you have to decide what to do next. The stream disconnects and you are to decide if you want to pair program, work on your own, or do nothing. No one checks the answers to the exercises so being self-sufficient will be important. So nothing is perfect and Telegraph Academy is aware and hopefully implementing changes.
Overall, I had fun. I learned a lot and I met some cool peeps that I look forward to seeing in class in a few months. Am I fully prepared to tackle the interview? Only time will tell, but I feel like I learned more in 4 weeks than I could have taught my self in 3 months.
I chose to attend Telegraph Academy becuase I fully believe in the mission and wanted to learn how to code in an exclusive environment. I'm a minority, so I recognize the challenges I face entering a career in tech. I wanted to be part of the vibrant community of talented and strong engineers being built at Telegraph. I dont feel like I could have benefited from my educational experience the same way if I went to another school. I didnt want to be just another number being churned out by some of the other bootcamps, Telegraph's staff cares about each one of their students success and encourage student to reach their fullest potential.
That being said this is not a program for people who just want to be spoon fed answers, or give up easily when things become challenging. I feel as an engineer one of the only things that will stay constant through out my career will be my neccessity to learn and grow. This is my biggest take away from Telegraph. It has helped me feel comfortable in a perputaul growth mindset. I gained the tools neccesary to find my own solutions and with the support from the staff the confidence that with hardwork those solutions will come.
Every step of the way I felt the prensece of the staff checking in. At no point did I feel my view or opinions couldn't be heard. We were give the opportunity to provide feedback as we progressed through the course so that staff could evalute and improve upon the existing systems. I felt like this level of attention provided the sense that not only could I be contributing to my own learning process but hopefully contributing to the improvment of others down the line. I enjoyed feeling as though I was a part of building something special.
Attending Telegraph Academy was one of the best decisions I've made. I was fortunate to have a cohort of like-minded indiviiduals who supported and challenged me to grow throughout my entire time as a student. I'm happy to say that I've become close with all of them and now have a network of talented engineers who I can share my experience with as we take on new endeavors out in the field.
I highly recommend Telegraph to my friends on a regular basis. The only caveats I express to them before I go in about how awesome Telegraph is as a school and an experience is this. Are you willing to work? and do you love coding? Because with the work you will most certainly see the rewards and the work itself is rewarding if you love learning and love coding.
Joining Telegraph Academy was the best decision I've ever made. Reading the negative reviews on this site was surprising. I had no idea that people felt this way it wasn't something that people brought up in any way during the bootcamp, during which, there are many oppertunities to give feedback.
As for the instruction team, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TEACHING. You don't need 10 years of software engineering experience to explain what a hash table is. Jamil, the lead instructor, hasn't worked for a start-up, true. But he has been TEACHING for a long time, and he knows how to code.
I strongly encourage any self-motivated and accountable go-getters to apply to TGA. It's a bootcamp, it works, but it's REALLY hard...
PS. Preston, Bianca and Albrey all taught at Hack-Reactor when they had less experience than they do now.
I attended the Telegraph Academy prep school last month.
-. Bunch confusing slides about Object, Array and Function syntax. They give you the answer (console.log), but less explanation of why? Then they moved to another page. On and on and on....fas!
-. The mentor thinks that you are an expert on JS basic, since you have to do the JS path from Codecademy before you go there. In fact, you should do the Coderbyte (easy challenge) and understand it clearly before you go to this prep school.
-. Students were NOT that friendly. I didn't go there to make a friend. But, you have to do some works as a pair. Some of the students won't share you the answer when you don't understand. Just like there was a competition (Maybe they thought it was a race to get a trophy or a Job). Like they were afraid if somebody will take their chance away to be the next Mark Zuckerberg.
-. One of their TA's, did not know there is a method called .push in Js. He said "Think about this: is it possible to push a table that not exist or has been defined before?". Omg, that method was taught by the mentor like 30 minutes ago. It confused me, big time. He was trying to convince me of something that he doesn't know. Why don't just say: "I am sorry, I don't know". And "Shut-Up".
-. Most ( Did I said most? ) of the mentors were very NICE (They were nice, tho). They might be good in JS, but they were NOT good enough explaining. They are not teachers (I assume, most of them were students from Hack Reactor). In my experience, it was only one time that I have a good mentor who understand how to teach. And I don't think he graduated from HR.
-. The learning situation has made me afraid to ask a question and feel stupid. It's very hard to ask questions when you are nervous. Like I don't deserve to understand JS.
-. I just feel that place is like a poser, instead of a coder's. Wait, If somebody get a greatjob as coder, why does he or she is still have time running a course?
I am done bitching. It did not work for me. What a waste of time and money.
P.S.: One more thing, it's very very very ( Did I triple it? ) hard to communicate with them. Maybe because they are too smart and too busy. If you critize this comment, that means you work for them. This is my experience, you should tell your own experience. You have no right to tell me if what I feel and think is right or wrong.
Following one of my interviews to get into Telegraph Academy, I asked a current student her opinion of the program. She told me that TgA was more difficult than giving birth to her child. True to her word, I've found going through the Telegraph Academy curriculm to be the most difficult thing I've ever done. It's also been one of the most fun, best experiences I've ever had, and in hindsight I would do it all over again.
The curriculm is hard. I've spoken with a Boston University computer science graduate who attended TgA, and he agreed that it's hard. One of my classmates has more than 15 years of experience as a software engineer, he joined our class to learn new skills, and he says that the curriculm is hard. I spoke to a former US Marine who went through the program, and though he said the Marine Corps was more physically taxing, Telegraph Academy was more mentally challenging. I'm saying it's not an easy program to get through. But well worth it.
Telegraph Academy was founded by two Hack Reactor graduates, and the teaching staff is made up of TgA grads. Everyone on staff is amazing, patient, kind and knowledgable. I've found their assistance through this experience to be critical to my success, and have been repeatedly amazed at the support I've received throughout the program. Special thanks to the instruction team (Albrey, Bianca, Claire, Jamil, and Mark) as well as the support staff (Alan, Alex, Amora, and Mo). Every member of the TgA team contributed to my success in too many ways for me to count here.
There are regular opportunities to give feedback to the staff on your experience, and I've seen some of the suggestions from my class being implemented for the one that followed. The instructors give feedback on your performance, which is very helpful in such a fast paced environment where you may feel like you aren't getting concepts. If the instructors feel you are falling behind, they let you know and help develop a plan for you to get back on track. But the ball is in your court; you have to do the work, and there is no hand holding. If you put in the time, you'll succeed.
I would't recommend that everyone attend a program such as Telegraph Academy or Hack Reactor. The pace is stressful as all get out, and being in the same room with the same class of people 11 hours a day, 6 days a week (minimum) for 12 weeks isn't for everyone. But if someone were planning on attending an immersive program for software development, then I would highly recommend TgA. Despite being frustrating and exhausting, attending Telegraph Academy has been one of the best decisions of my life, and I don't regret it.
This school has provided me what can most simply be described as 'The Best Educational Experience Of My Life'. I found out about Telegraph Academy in July of 2015 and saw it as an opportunity to change my life. I had always been on computers alot, loved critical thinking and problem solving, but had absolutely no experience coding. This raving 5 star review really doesnt mean anything without reasons, luckily, TGA provides plenty. I'll address my personal experience with each of the categories reviewed.
Instructors: The Instructors are who really made the experience for me. I had the privelege to be taught by Jamil Lawrence, and Claire Bendersky for my junior half and Marc Christophe for the senior. They each brought a unique past, skillset and perspective but shared this energy of loving to teach and a great sense of humor. Claire brought a 'You-Can-Do-This' attitude to every lesson that made the material seem far less intimidating. Jamil loves to teach, it's clear as day, and he's good at it. Many times as both a junior and senior I would be losing my mind, patience, lunch, all of it, over a problem and he would actully stop what he was doing, work THROUGH the problem with me and then drop some engineering proverb for me to chew on through my cooldown("Improve yourself 1% everyday, thats how greatness is achieved"). Marc fosters the process of becoming an autonomous engineer with thoughtful council during application development. Marc's experience provides insight into many problems engineers face in and out of TGA, also, Marc is hilarious.
Job Assistance: I am 8 weeks into my job hunt and I am shocked at the level of support provided by TGA. To be transparent, I am making a very difficult transition. I have a very weak working history with no technichal experience and no formal education to speak of. Anyone who has been on a Job Search will tell you it takes a mental toll on you. My Outcomes (Post-Graduation) correspondent Mo Akinde is so unrestrained in the effort she brings to helping students there is only one, obvious explanation: She loves helping people succeed. I really feel like she just WONT let me fail, period. I appreciate her frequent check-ins with me, helping me to schedule my time, and continuous iterative reviews to help me create a professional resume. Even as just an ear to listen to your Job Search woes, Mo is gonna try to help. Through this difficult process she has been and actively continues to be unbelievable.
Overall Experience - I loved It. As a graduate I often actually find myself MISSING BOOTCAMP. 11+ hours a day, 6 days a week, THEY MADE ME MISS THAT?!?! Yes it's true. When at TGA, ask anyone around you about themself and prepare to be amazed. You'll encounter everything from Ivy League grads to folks like myself, Highly motivated, self-educated, self-starters. I can promise during your time @ TGA you will have a disagreement with a classmate, its just the nature of working with people. The beautiful part about this is that while you may not agree with your classmate, their intellect is undeniable. I never felt like I was arguing with someone over a knowledge gap, only perspectives. The TGA community and the people it brings in are a welcoming bunch, enthusiastic about both tech and the mission to increase diversity in a laregly homogenous field of work. Albrey and Bianca are both extremely approachable by students and its clear they make it a point to be that way (they are easily busy enough NOT to be this way). I believe TGA is the greatest opportunity so far in my life and I'm eternally greatful to the staff and community for making the experience so fantastic.
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week 3 and 4 especially helped prepare me for the hack reactor/telegraph technical interview because i struggled understanding closures and callbacks before i took the course. after week 3, i had a much better understanding of how higher order functions worked. week 4 was spent working on our capstone project which involves making a game in which we had to use TONS of callbacks.
if you're willing to work hard, you'll get a lot out of it because they've structured it for everyone to succeed. don't be afraid to ask for help and be willing to challenge yourself. thanks to preston, albrey, bianca and everyone else who put together such a great course and for all of the free coffee and snacks!!
The livestream was a big let down. I only attended part 1 since there is no way I would pay anything more for their product (there are two portions: part 1 is the first two weeks). The people running the program act like they don't give two cents about the livestream members. The instructor isn't great and relies on referencing her experience at hack reactor as her merit. I'd suggest Hack Reactor look at their affiliation with a weak product like Telegraph Prep.
i didn't pay hard earned money to be taught by former students who have worked on nothing in production. ask for the teachers' credentials from any bootcamp you go to and stay away from those who don't hire qualified teachers with AT LEAST ONE SOFTWARE ENGINEERING JOB. this is a joke. it's true that their instructors have no experience. only mark has had a real job out of the entire staff including the cofounders.
I am one of the first cohort graduates (my cohort ended on September 2015).
Let me start by saying that I have a bachelors degree in Computer Engineer. At the moment I am a fulltime software engineer working at InRhythm.
When i got out of college, I started looking for entry level positions. It was really hard to get one even tough I graduate with high GPA. (3.63). I was able to get offers for an intership which trains me for about 3 months and then I am hired fulltime for 2 years with a salary of 38k on the first year and 42k on the second year.
A friend of mines recommended me to get into a bootcamp and I looked for many here in NY, and also in CA. TGA helped me on getting a loan that will pay the tuition to attend the bootcamp ( which otherwise I would never have get into one because is too expensive).
To compare, I completed 3 semester in college in about 2 weeks at the bootcamp (we did data structures and algorithms on our first and second week). That blow my mind! After that second week I had no doubt that I have choosen a really good bootcamp and that I will learn a lot.
We worked very hard every single day during our time at the bootcamp, and it was definitely worth it!. I learned a lot more than what I learned in school. Right after graduation, big companies such as Chase, Solar City, Slack,to name a few, started to contact me for an interview. It was an amazing feeling!
The majority of my classmates from college are all working as entry level engineers or taking interships with salaries ranging from 25-50k, I am making ~90k plus bonus and I couldn't have done it without the help of Telegraph Academy.
To summarize, I would NEVER regret attending TGA. It changed my life forever. It would have taken me years to get to the level where I am right now and all thanks to TGA.
Thank you Albrey and Bianca.
Having gone through the prep program, I decided against moving forward with TGA mainly because the assignments had many bugs and were always thrown together at the last minute. It seems like TGA in general runs like this as they try to make an asset on their website...
"We may be small, but we're scrappy and nimble. We use student input to constantly improve our curriculum and processes. Students who come to Telegraph Academy are excited about getting in on the ground floor of a movement and want to contribute to an organization that is constantly fine-tuning itself."
It feels like it is not fair that TGA is charging as much as Hack Reactor, which is a very solid program, despite the fact that they are still getting their sh*t together. And the fact that this program is supposed to help diversify tech yet costs so much seems to not make sense. I really do hope TGA does improve and invest in stronger teachers and more organized administrators because I do believe in their mission.
Telegraph Academy(TGA) is Spearheaded by the talents of Albrey Brown and Bianca Gandolfo. faculty and staff at TGA is full of great positive energy and what at times seems like infinite knowledge in both technical and non-technical fields. The staff does a great job a creating a stressful environment while helping students maintain their sanity all to promote as much growth as possible.
Instructors: It is easy to misconstrue the purpose of the instruction and HiR team. Lectures would be held by our instructor, introducing us to a concept and student would then be released to work on a coding challenge that would make use of our new found knowledge. Help is available for students that would get stuck for long periods of time, but no 'answer' would be provided until the time allowed to work on the challenge had expired. Instructors and hackers in residence were present to ask clariying questions and guide student down a logical path. This is invaluable because just having someone there to give one the answer would just rob them of the opportunity to learn. Also no one is going to be sitting next to you on the job telling you how to solve all of the problems you encounter. "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn."
Job Assistance: TGA has access to the Reactor Core network of hiring partners. Before getting to the job search however, you are required to work on your cover letter and resume, as well as online presence. All this is to get ensure that you can solely focus on applying and interviewing for position you are interested. As a graduate one would also has access to the outcomes and hiring team which is shared amound Reactor Core schools which will work with you until the end of time to ensure that you land at your dream company as well as help you with salary negotiations.
Overall Experience: Amazing, I would do it again in a heartbeat. It is not for everyone however, I feel like a lot of people underestimate how challenging programs such as this one on are. If you are up for the challenge then I highly recommend giving it a shot!
Before Telegraph prep, I had taken the Hack Reactor weekend courses, which were amazing and intense, but I learned even more at my four weeks at Telegraph prep since the classes were spaced out and given that we had daily programming challenges assigned. The prep curriculum covers objects, arrays, data structures, ,looping, functions, and functional programming for the most part. Below is a rough schedule of what's covered, and it's likely to change over time, since Telegraph Academy constantly iterates upon feedback.
Thursday: Functions 2
Sunday: Study Day
Monday: Arrays + Objects (review)
Tuesday: Functions + Functions 2 (review)
Sunday: Study Day
Thursday: Callbacks/Higher Order Functions
Friday: Underscore.js functional programming
Sunday: Optional Study Day
Week 4 Putting it All Together
Monday: Capstone Project
Tuesday: Capstone Project
Wednesday: Capstone Project
Thursday: Capstone Project
Sunday: Optional Study Day
Prior to taking the 4-week course, I had a been self-teaching myself for about 3 months on and off. I interviewed at Hack Reactor in Feb 2015 and didn't get in. After I finished the prep course, I interviewed with Telegraph Academy and I was interviewed by the same person who interviewed me at Hack Reactor! This time I felt very prepared and passed the interview though. All of this to say that, Telegraph Academy does not skip corners and they hold themselves to the same high standards as Hack Reactor.
To the person who left a the first bad review, I had a completely opposite experience from you. Before coming to the prep course, you don't need to comeplete any coderbyte problems - I didn't - but they wouldn't hurt. I thought the slides were great. If you don't understand something, it's up to you to let the instructors know that you need help. If your nervous don't be - everyone is here to learn. When I didn't understand something I would ask if another example problem could be provided. I will say that on somedays we did have guest lecturers who weren't so great, but everyone was courteous, open to questions, and very open minded.
Frankly, you get what you put into this course . You need to WORK HARD, ask questions, study outside of class CONSISTENTLY, keep failing quickly, learning from your missteps and getting up again. Also Telegraph prep is the most diverse coding space I have ever been to, which is freaking amazing. I had classmates from all walks of life and backgrounds, so my experience was also enhanced by my peers.
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