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Having gone through the prep program, I decided against moving forward with TGA mainly because the assignments had many bugs and were always thrown together at the last minute. It seems like TGA in general runs like this as they try to make an asset on their website...
"We may be small, but we're scrappy and nimble. We use student input to constantly improve our curriculum and processes. Students who come to Telegraph Academy are excited about getting in on the ground floor of a movement and want to contribute to an organization that is constantly fine-tuning itself."
It feels like it is not fair that TGA is charging as much as Hack Reactor, which is a very solid program, despite the fact that they are still getting their sh*t together. And the fact that this program is supposed to help diversify tech yet costs so much seems to not make sense. I really do hope TGA does improve and invest in stronger teachers and more organized administrators because I do believe in their mission.
many of the core instructors have no real software engineer experience (take a look at linkedin for yourself). new grads from the first cohort are now teaching the curriculum which is a travesty because they barely have a grasp on what's going on and you can tell with how they answer questions. i'm worried about the future of this school. i recommend going to another one of the hack reactor schools if your going to spend $18,000 until they hire people with real experience.
I think having graduate acting as instructors is not necessarily a problem per se. Hack Reactor too employs graduates as lecturers. OTH, the lead instructor at HR is an experienced veteran software engineer who can step in and fill in the gaps when necessary.
Telegraph Academy too can certainly benefit from the presence and leadership of an experienced lead instructor. I believe both of TA's co-founders have had industry experiences. It would be nice if they can be more involved in the teachings and trouble shootings.
well let's take a look at the instructor's real world software engineer "experience" according to linkedin:
preston = one month contract
bianca = one to three month contracts
albrey = none
claire = none
jameel = none
they often have opinions of "well this is what the real world is like", but have they held any real world jobs? nope. if you want to go there, be my guest. they have a great mission, but don't have the staff needed to carry it out. there are better alternatives for this kind of money considering their job stats are the worse than hack reactor, remote beta, and makersquare. why just watch recorded lectures from hack reactor when you can go there
This review is for Telegraph Academy and not Telegraph Prep
I am a Telegraph Academy alumni and currently Hacker in Residence. I searched nearly a year before settling on Telegraph Academy. This was one of the most challenging and amazing experiences of my life. If I had to guestimate, I probably averaged 13-15 hours of coding, everyday for 3 months. I had no room to think about anything else.
The very bottom lines (for me):
1. VERY competitive (Hack Reactor Partner School), meaning this not a place for people who want to "tryout" software engineering to see if it's something they might like it. If you make through the admissions process, you're already a dev. They're going to give you the tools to slap on a turbo and supercharge yourself. You'll come out feeling like a rocket scientist who can solve, build or fix anything.
2. Amazing, diverse, group of people where nearly EVERYONE was represented and I was able to truly be myself which allowed me to really focus on my code.
3. While coding skills are important, being able to work with others is a MUST. You'll spend most of your time paring with others and working in teams. You won't believe it at first, but this takes your dev skills to the next level.
4. AMAZING support system and dev community. Tons of Hack Reactor support and here is this official info on the HR organization and where TGA fits in: Announcing… Hack Reactor Core
5. Top 3 of my best life decisions with no movement in sight. I got far more than what I paid for.
Telegraph Academy was one of the most intense experiences of my life. I was pushed to the limit every single day for 12 weeks and can confidently say that I grew personally and professionally beyond my expectations. I chose TGA because the curriculum is the most challenging and I wanted to be around students driven enough to pass TGA's technical interview. Never before have I been surrounded by individuals as intelligent, hard-working, and caring as the students in my cohort.
If you're considering enrolling, just know that you're going to be in good hands. The quality of instructors and curriculum are top notch and the entire staff cares about each student like family. I'm glad to be a part of the community TGA has built and I look forward to watching it grow in the future.
It has been a challenging and tough 3 months. But well worth it in the end. Telegraph Academy has created a safe and inclusive environment for everyone to come and learn. It has prepared me with skills to enter the workforce with. They have helped me develop my coding skills as well as soft skills. A wonderful experience overall.
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One of the best decisions I've made for my career! TGA prepared me with the tools and best practices to jump right into software engineering. The focus on creating an inclusive space and pair-programming really set it apart from other spaces I've learned in and motivated me to continue pushing myself. I also enjoyed developing my soft-skills through presentiations and public speaking.
While the team is nice enough, no one has any idea how to teach. They don't prepare logical lesson plans, they can't answer questions clearly and simply--newbies really don't stand a chance. Some students know what they're doing and, of course, they have to let you know it by asking really granular questions that don't edify anyone. I really, really wish I could be more positive because I really believe in the mission, but I was left feeling frustrated and disappointed. For all the "assistance" actually give you, you might as well go with Lynda.com
Telegraph Academy--please get it together. This could be a really good program, but it needs quality instruction.
I attended their livestream prep program. I didn't care for the instructor. To me it felt like they were moving very quickly and didn't press the students who had a thumbs-down or side-thumbs enough. Even without seeing the attendees it seemed the class was confused sometimes based on their silence and lack of comments/questions.
Also there was an instance where someone was asking questions they should have learned from codeacademy, which was required before starting. That wasted time where someone else could have asked a question that was relevant to everyone.
Also, livestreamers could not hear attendees (other than speaker) at all and speaker never repeated questions attendees gave so livestreamers had to guess the question based on the answer the speaker gave, which is subpar if you ask me.
The livestream was a big let down. I only attended part 1 since there is no way I would pay anything more for their product (there are two portions: part 1 is the first two weeks). The people running the program act like they don't give two cents about the livestream members. The instructor isn't great and relies on referencing her experience at hack reactor as her merit. I'd suggest Hack Reactor look at their affiliation with a weak product like Telegraph Prep.
I live-streamed and there were some pros and cons. First, let me begin by saying this is a Beta course. I think I was the 2nd class to go through this course. What they done so far is awesome.
Pros: great structure, lecture material, setup, pace, pricing
The classes are streamed via a conference room and we chat with the TA's and other students via the slack app. Each night we run through slides, then we have practice exercises that are assigned to reinforce what we just learned. The exercises are great and if you want, you can link up with another student to pair program. They give us plenty of resources to do so. I learned so much through the 4 weeks. There were lectures from students at hack reactor and some of the teachers are really really awesome. The classes almost always started on time and never ran over the alotted period. And for a class of this type, this is the cheapest one that I've found. They are really on the right path and doing something special. Telegraph Academy is new, but they are already enrolling students in the full bootcamp while running a prep course as well. I see good things for this school.
Cons: Speed, feeling left out, sound
At some times, the teacher or speaker just blasts through the slides. For example, one night the lecture was over in 20 mins...I thought this was a 3hr/day class?? For the live-streamers, you may have a tough time getting questions answered. The teachers don't see your questions so when they ask the class are there any questions, they usually aren't referring to live-streamers. The TA's are there to answer questions, but with so many students, it may take a while to get an answer which sucks because the lecture is still moving and you have no clue of what's going on. Also, after the lecture is over, you have to decide what to do next. The stream disconnects and you are to decide if you want to pair program, work on your own, or do nothing. No one checks the answers to the exercises so being self-sufficient will be important. So nothing is perfect and Telegraph Academy is aware and hopefully implementing changes.
Overall, I had fun. I learned a lot and I met some cool peeps that I look forward to seeing in class in a few months. Am I fully prepared to tackle the interview? Only time will tell, but I feel like I learned more in 4 weeks than I could have taught my self in 3 months.
Grateful and appreciative for what this team is doing, bringing code to anyone that wants to learn. I took the prep class and learned more in 4 weeks than I learned in 4 months on my own. JS is a big Octopus with many tenticles, they helped me focus on the relevent one's that moved me into functional programming on a HigherOrder. looking forward to joining this team in a learning exp at TGA. gratitude and thanks to this team for not judging and being there to teach all.
not affiliated/only took prep so far.
I did not get a good experience either in their PREP COURSE. I did the codecademy (Maybe that's not a hard work for some of the students ), but I thought their material are hard to understand. I did ask the mentor, but they don't explain it well. I am sorry, but I have to say this.
week 3 and 4 especially helped prepare me for the hack reactor/telegraph technical interview because i struggled understanding closures and callbacks before i took the course. after week 3, i had a much better understanding of how higher order functions worked. week 4 was spent working on our capstone project which involves making a game in which we had to use TONS of callbacks.
if you're willing to work hard, you'll get a lot out of it because they've structured it for everyone to succeed. don't be afraid to ask for help and be willing to challenge yourself. thanks to preston, albrey, bianca and everyone else who put together such a great course and for all of the free coffee and snacks!!
While I only took weeks 3 and 4, I found Telegraph Prep to be an excellent preparation for all of my coding interviews. I was not very proficient with higher order functions, callbacks, or the underscore library before the course, but I feel very good at all of those post-TP. The instructors were awesome, the curriculum covered exactly what I expected, and the entire atmosphere was fun and conducive to learning. Also, the capstone project was excellent practice in solidifying skills learned in the course. I do have to say that I attended in person and do not know how the livestream version is. But, from my experience, I would highly recommend TP to anyone wanting to become more proficient in functional JS.
Before Telegraph prep, I had taken the Hack Reactor weekend courses, which were amazing and intense, but I learned even more at my four weeks at Telegraph prep since the classes were spaced out and given that we had daily programming challenges assigned. The prep curriculum covers objects, arrays, data structures, ,looping, functions, and functional programming for the most part. Below is a rough schedule of what's covered, and it's likely to change over time, since Telegraph Academy constantly iterates upon feedback.
Thursday: Functions 2
Sunday: Study Day
Monday: Arrays + Objects (review)
Tuesday: Functions + Functions 2 (review)
Sunday: Study Day
Thursday: Callbacks/Higher Order Functions
Friday: Underscore.js functional programming
Sunday: Optional Study Day
Week 4 Putting it All Together
Monday: Capstone Project
Tuesday: Capstone Project
Wednesday: Capstone Project
Thursday: Capstone Project
Sunday: Optional Study Day
Prior to taking the 4-week course, I had a been self-teaching myself for about 3 months on and off. I interviewed at Hack Reactor in Feb 2015 and didn't get in. After I finished the prep course, I interviewed with Telegraph Academy and I was interviewed by the same person who interviewed me at Hack Reactor! This time I felt very prepared and passed the interview though. All of this to say that, Telegraph Academy does not skip corners and they hold themselves to the same high standards as Hack Reactor.
To the person who left a the first bad review, I had a completely opposite experience from you. Before coming to the prep course, you don't need to comeplete any coderbyte problems - I didn't - but they wouldn't hurt. I thought the slides were great. If you don't understand something, it's up to you to let the instructors know that you need help. If your nervous don't be - everyone is here to learn. When I didn't understand something I would ask if another example problem could be provided. I will say that on somedays we did have guest lecturers who weren't so great, but everyone was courteous, open to questions, and very open minded.
Frankly, you get what you put into this course . You need to WORK HARD, ask questions, study outside of class CONSISTENTLY, keep failing quickly, learning from your missteps and getting up again. Also Telegraph prep is the most diverse coding space I have ever been to, which is freaking amazing. I had classmates from all walks of life and backgrounds, so my experience was also enhanced by my peers.
I attended the Telegraph Academy prep school last month.
-. Bunch confusing slides about Object, Array and Function syntax. They give you the answer (console.log), but less explanation of why? Then they moved to another page. On and on and on....fas!
-. The mentor thinks that you are an expert on JS basic, since you have to do the JS path from Codecademy before you go there. In fact, you should do the Coderbyte (easy challenge) and understand it clearly before you go to this prep school.
-. Students were NOT that friendly. I didn't go there to make a friend. But, you have to do some works as a pair. Some of the students won't share you the answer when you don't understand. Just like there was a competition (Maybe they thought it was a race to get a trophy or a Job). Like they were afraid if somebody will take their chance away to be the next Mark Zuckerberg.
-. One of their TA's, did not know there is a method called .push in Js. He said "Think about this: is it possible to push a table that not exist or has been defined before?". Omg, that method was taught by the mentor like 30 minutes ago. It confused me, big time. He was trying to convince me of something that he doesn't know. Why don't just say: "I am sorry, I don't know". And "Shut-Up".
-. Most ( Did I said most? ) of the mentors were very NICE (They were nice, tho). They might be good in JS, but they were NOT good enough explaining. They are not teachers (I assume, most of them were students from Hack Reactor). In my experience, it was only one time that I have a good mentor who understand how to teach. And I don't think he graduated from HR.
-. The learning situation has made me afraid to ask a question and feel stupid. It's very hard to ask questions when you are nervous. Like I don't deserve to understand JS.
-. I just feel that place is like a poser, instead of a coder's. Wait, If somebody get a greatjob as coder, why does he or she is still have time running a course?
I am done bitching. It did not work for me. What a waste of time and money.
P.S.: One more thing, it's very very very ( Did I triple it? ) hard to communicate with them. Maybe because they are too smart and too busy. If you critize this comment, that means you work for them. This is my experience, you should tell your own experience. You have no right to tell me if what I feel and think is right or wrong.
Telegraph Academy provides an amazing student-to-teacher ratio, so each student gets lots of individual attention and support. They have great curriculum they share with Hack Reactor, and excellent instructors. Everyone believes passionately in Telegraph Academy's mission to get more people from underrepresented group (women, people of color, queer, etc) into the tech industry, which creates a strong send of community.
If I could do it over I would have just attended Hack Reactor. I'll start by saying that I am now an employed software engineer. However, this a review of the school and not my own personal outcomes. The cost of attendance is the same as hack reactor, but this equal cost does not equate to equal quality. Since it labels itself as the premier coding bootcamp for people of color and underrepresented groups, it seems as though it also lowers the standards of admission if you fit into one of those profiles. As it stands, the job placement rate is abysmal and the salaries of the few that do have jobs are considerably less than Hack Reactor graduates. I don't know a single graduate who commanded a six figure salary that was also a minority or member of the lgbtq community. All the people who have written highly rated reviews either drink the kool aid or ended up employed by the school, and have all quit once they were no longer jaded by the false sense of community being around people belonging to other under represented with the same prospects of becoming a software engineer. With the exception of Marc, there isn't a single instructor present who has had any experience in the field that they are teaching outside of a few month to month contract gigs. Just another copycat bootcamp trying to target a new demographic. Don't forget that this is a for-profit business, forget the happy-go-lucky attitude and mission of diversifying tech. They want your $20,000 and I could have spent mine wiser.
Cost is equal to Hack Reactor, educational quality is not
Weak job placement and salaries
Predatory business model
Response From: Albrey Brown of Telegraph Academy
- Albrey Brown, Cofounder of Telegraph Academy
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