Flatiron School offers immersive on-campus and online programs in software engineering, data science, UX/UI design, and cybersecurity in NYC, Brooklyn, Washington DC, London, Houston, Atlanta, Austin, Seattle, Chicago, Denver, and Online. Flatiron School’s immersive courses aim to launch students into fulfilling careers as software engineers, data scientists, and UX/UI designers through rigorous, market-aligned curricula, and the support of seasoned instructors and personal career coaches. Through test-driven labs and portfolio projects, Flatiron teaches students to think and build like software engineers and data scientists. Flatiron School’s UX/UI Design Immersive includes a client project to give students client-facing experience and an industry-vetted portfolio.
To apply, applicants must submit a written application about why they want to join Flatiron School, take part in an interview with an admissions advisor, learn some basic skills, and discuss it with an instructor. Flatiron is looking for people with passion and aptitude and aims to admit people with a variety of backgrounds. Flatiron School also offers several free introductory courses, including Coding Bootcamp Prep and Data Science Bootcamp Prep.
Flatiron School offers a money-back guarantee for their Software Engineering, Data Science, and UX/UI Design Immersives – if students don’t get a qualifying job offer within six months of graduation, they can get their money back (see eligibility at flatironschool.com/terms). Flatiron’s Career Services team provides weekly 1:1 career coaching sessions, mock interviews, and employer introductions to help students launch lifelong careers in tech.
Flatiron School, in partnership with WeWork, also powers the Access Labs Initiative – a 15-week immersive software engineering program in Brooklyn with deferred tuition for applicants earning less than $35,000. To increase diversity in its programs, Flatiron School has awarded over $10 million in scholarships for women, minorities, veterans, and other underrepresented groups in tech.
Flatiron School was one of the first bootcamps in the industry to publish outcomes, backing its 99% employment rate for the NYC Software Engineering Immersive, and 94% employment rate for the Online Software Engineering Immersive with annual independently-verified jobs reports (check out the full report at flatironschool.com/outcomes).
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In PersonFull Time40 Hours/week12 Weeks
Start Date Rolling Start Date Cost $15,000 Class size 20 Location Washington, New York City, LondonOver 12 intense weeks on campus at Flatiron School, our Cybersecurity Analytics curriculum will prepare you to handle rapidly-advancing threats. You’ll set traps and catch threat actors with our real-world lab environments paired with industry-grade curriculum. You’ll learn the analytical skills needed to stand out from the competition. Our Cybersecurity Analytics program includes 8 foundational courses designed to prepare you for success in the cybersecurity industry.
Deposit Yes Financing Tuition Plans Tuition varies by campus location: London: £12,500, NYC $17,000, DC $15,000 Refund / Guarantee Flatiron School’s Cybersecurity Analytics Immersive includes a money-back guarantee: get a job offer within six months of graduation, or we’ll refund your full tuition. (See eligibility terms at flatironschool.com/terms) Scholarship Contact firstname.lastname@example.org to learn about current opportunities
Minimum Skill Level No previous cybersecurity analytics experience is required. Prep Work Yes Placement Test No Interview Yes
In PersonFull Time40 Hours/week15 Weeks
Start Date Rolling Start Date Cost $15,000 Class size 20 Location Chicago, Atlanta, Washington, San Francisco, New York City, London, SeattleThe Data Science Immersive provides students with the knowledge, skills, and experience to get a job as a data scientist – which requires a mix of software engineering, statistical understanding, and the ability to apply both skills in new and challenging domains. The program will teach students to gather data, apply statistical analysis to answer questions with that data, and make their insights and information as actionable as possible. Our pedagogy ensures not only job readiness for today’s market, but the aptitude and skills to keep learning and stay relevant. At Flatiron School, students learn by building. Students will come away with an advanced Portfolio Project to demonstrate their technical proficiency and creativity to current or future job managers and hiring leads. Our course dedicates three weeks towards completion of a large-scale data science and machine learning project where students work in groups of two. The project provides an in-depth opportunity for students to demonstrate their learning accomplishments and get a feel for what working a large-scale data science project is really like.
Deposit Yes Financing Tuition Plans Tuition varies by campus location: NYC and SF: $17,000; Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Seattle: $15,000; London: £12,500 Refund / Guarantee Yes. Flatiron Scholarship Visit flatironschool.com/scholarships to learn about current scholarship opportunities.
Minimum Skill Level No previous coding experience is required, but we encourage all applicants to start learning through Flatiron School’s free Data Science Bootcamp Prep course. Prep Work Yes Placement Test Yes Interview Yes
- Growth Hacking, Penetration Testing, Virtualization, Mobile Security, Ethical Hacking, Network Security, SIEM Administration
OnlinePart Time16 Weeks
Start Date Rolling Start Date Cost $15,000 Class size N/A Location OnlineIn as little as 16 weeks at Flatiron School, our Cybersecurity Analytics curriculum will prepare you to handle rapidly-advancing threats. You’ll set traps and catch threat actors with our real-world lab environments paired with the industry-grade curriculum. You’ll learn the analytical skills needed to stand out from the competition. Our Cybersecurity Analytics program includes 8 foundational courses designed to prepare you for success in the cybersecurity industry.
Deposit Yes FinancingISAs available in select states. Lending partners available, including SkillsFund and Climb Credit. Tuition Plans Full-Time Course: $15,000 Part-Time Course: $15,000 Refund / Guarantee Flatiron School's Online Cybersecurity Analytics includes a money-back guarantee: get a job offer within six months of graduation, or we'll refund your full tuition. (See eligibility terms at flatironschool.com/terms). Scholarship Contact email@example.com to learn about current opportunities.
Minimum Skill Level No previous cybersecurity analytics experience is required. Prep Work Optional Placement Test No Interview Yes
Start Date Rolling Start Date Cost $15,000 Class size N/A Location OnlineWith more than 650% job growth since 2012, data science has catapulted to be among tech’s fastest-growing and most sought-after fields. This program will provide students with the knowledge, skills, and experience to get a job as a data scientist – which requires a mix of software engineering, statistical understanding, and the ability to apply both skills in new and challenging domains. Students will learn how to gather data, apply statistical analysis to answer questions with that data, and make their insights and information as actionable as possible. Our pedagogy ensures not only job readiness for today’s market, but the aptitude and skills to keep learning and stay relevant. All students in our Online Data Science Immersive receive a one-year WeWork hot desk membership included in their tuition, enabling them to connect and network with other learners in their city. The course is available in full-time, part-time, and self-paced formats.
Deposit N/A Financing Tuition Plans Tuition varies across three course pacing options: Full-Time Course: $15,000 Part-Time Course: $15,000 Self-Paced Course: $9,600 Refund / Guarantee Flatiron School's Online Data Science Immersive includes a money-back guarantee: get a job offer within six months of graduation, or we'll refund your full tuition. (See eligibility terms at flatironschool.com/terms) Scholarship Contact firstname.lastname@example.org to learn about current opportunities.
Minimum Skill Level No previous coding experience is required, but we encourage all applicants to start learning through Flatiron School’s free Data Science Bootcamp Prep course. Prep Work Yes Placement Test No Interview Yes
In PersonPart Time
Deposit N/A Financing Tuition Plans Tuition varies across three course pacing options: Full-Time Course: $15,000; Part-Time Course: $15,000; Self-Paced Course: $9,600 Refund / Guarantee Flatiron School's Online Software Engineering Immersive includes a money-back guarantee: get a job offer within six months of graduation, or we'll refund your full tuition. (See eligibility terms at flatironschool.com/terms) Scholarship Contact email@example.com to learn about current opportunities.
Minimum Skill Level No previous coding experience is required, but we encourage all applicants to start learning through Flatiron School’s free Coding Bootcamp Prep course. Prep Work Yes Placement Test No Interview Yes Start Date Rolling Start Date Cost $15,000 Class size N/A Location OnlineLearn the visual, technical, and client service skills essential to launch a successful career as a UX or UI designer. Flatiron School’s online course combines an industry-leading digital design program with dedicated Career Services support. The course is available in full-time, part-time, and self-paced formats.
Deposit N/A Financing Tuition Plans $15,000 for Full-Time and Part-Time course pace options Refund / Guarantee Flatiron School's Online UX/UI Design course includes a money-back guarantee: get a job offer within six months of graduation, or we'll refund your full tuition. (See eligibility terms at flatironschool.com/terms) Scholarship Contact firstname.lastname@example.org to learn about current opportunities.
Minimum Skill Level No previous design experience is required. Prep Work No. Placement Test No Interview Yes
In PersonFull Time40 Hours/week15 Weeks
Deposit Yes Financing Tuition Plans Tuition varies by campus location: NYC and SF: $17,000 Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Houston, Seattle, Washington, DC: $15,000 London: £10,000 Refund / Guarantee Flatiron School's Software Engineering Immersive includes a money-back guarantee: get a job offer within six months of graduation, or we'll refund your full tuition. (See eligibility terms at flatironschool.com/terms) Scholarship Contact email@example.com to learn about current opportunities.
Minimum Skill Level No previous coding experience is required, but we encourage all applicants to start learning through Flatiron School’s free Coding Bootcamp Prep course. Prep Work Yes Placement Test Yes Interview Yes
- User Experience Design
In PersonFull Time40 Hours/week24 Weeks
Start Date Rolling Start Date Cost $17,000 Class size 24 Location San Francisco, New York City, London, Seattle, AustinPowered by Designation, this course combines the world’s leading digital design program with Flatiron School’s best-in-class Career Services team and money-back guarantee (see eligibility details at flatironschool.com/terms). Students learn skills in user experience and user interface design and then practice those skills in a professional, client-based environment. Broken into two 12-week phases – this hybrid learning model allows students to study online for the first 12 weeks, and then join in person for team-based design and live client projects. Students learn quickly that design itself isn’t only about doing or creating; it’s always about learning— about users, clients, teammates, practices, tools, skills, and yourself.
Deposit Yes Financing Tuition Plans Tuition varies by campus location: NYC: $17,000; London: £12,500 Refund / Guarantee Flatiron School's UX/UI Design Immersive includes a money-back guarantee: get a job offer within six months of graduation, or we'll refund your full tuition. (See eligibility terms at flatironschool.com/terms) Scholarship Contact firstname.lastname@example.org to learn about current opportunities.
Minimum Skill Level N/A Prep Work Before beginning the full time course, all students complete Design Essentials - a six-week online course covering the foundations of UX research, UX design, interaction design, visual design, UI design, and user testing. Placement Test No Interview Yes
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- Incredible Instructors- 12/13/2016Andrew Klein • Forward Deployed Engineer • Student • Course: Immersive Software Engineering Bootcamp • Campus: New York City
I attended The Flatiron School in order to make a career change. I was able to land a job in the industry shortly after graduating, so in that respect, The Flatiron School was a great decision.
I believe the reason The Flatiron School succeeds is because of the quality of the Instructors. The three instructors assigned to my class were incredibly passionate, knowledgeable, persistent, and patient. I would recommend The Flatiron School for the quality of the instructors alone.
- A life changing experience- 12/9/2016Daniel F • CEO • Graduate • Course: Immersive Software Engineering Bootcamp • Campus: New York CityMy time at Flatiron was one of the best investments in my career and education I have made. Instructors were excellent, caring, and thoughtful. Curriculum was rigorous but well scaffolded. Loved the focus on community, pair programming, and excellent career support team. Flatiron taught me not only to love code, but also to think a lot about great teaching and community building.
- The dream is real- 12/6/2016Don • Software Development Consultant • Graduate • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
Tomorrow I start my new job in software development. If you had told me how far I'd come in a year I would have said you were a liar.
The fact is: the promises made are possible to acheive. Flatiron/Learn will give you a road map, but you have to walk the path.
That said, the assistance in learning and in job hunting that I recieved from The Flatiron School was invaluable. My career coach was a god send who helped me keep my head up when I thought for sure I'd failed.
It's hard work. It gets frustrating. You will doubt yourself and others along the way. But it's real and it's up to you. There is no such thing as magic. Thank you Flatiron!
- Amazing Platform to Transition Careers- 10/24/2016A • Graduate • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
My goal was to transition from a career without any programming knowledge to being a full stack developer building great things. With the Flatiron School's help -- mission accomplished. Below are a few things I really loved about the Online Campus (previously called the "Learn" program, when I first joined).
Learn At Your Own Pace: Rather than a 12-week intense immersive, I was able to learn full stack technologies over 8-months at my own pace.
Learn Where You Want: Rather than having to be in a city, I could travel and do the learning online. This was key as I was transitioning between cities during my learning period. You can do this at home, at school, in a coffee shop, wherever you want.
Competitive Pricing: They price it in monthly installments, but cap the fee so that it will (generally) not cost more than your average 12-week boot camp. If you meet the cap, then you stop paying but keep access to everything.
Great Support: Access to instructors and a super helpful student community. You have an "Ask A Question" portal, Slack channels with everyone will to pitch-in, and easy access to the instructors.
Great Tools: The key is that you use the REAL development tools on your computer, nothing contrived. You learn how to really work as a legitimate developer.
For anyone wondering whether it is easy, by no means was it a walk in the park. You had to learn a lot of information, build real applications that end up in your portfolio to show employers. Also, a job is not served to you on a silver platter. You still have to put in the leg work (meetups, networking, emails, coffee-chats, etc.) -- but that is par for the course, you would do that regardless.
It worked for me. I think this is a great option for many other people who want flexibility with their career transition, and who want to work with a great Flatiron team!
- Recommendation- 9/18/2016Shana • Software Engineer • Graduate • Campus: Online
Learn Verified was such a good fit for me! At the time I knew I wanted to change my career by learning how to program, I first started teaching myself using various online resources and books. With so much to learn, it often felt overwhelming and frankly discouraging. I started to hunt for programs to take a more structured approach to my learning. I interviewed with and considered several in-person bootcamps, in addition to going back to school for a CS degree, but I wasn't willing/ready (financially) to quit my job and/or borrow money to complete such programs. I was pleasantly surprised that during this hunt, I stumbled across a remote program by Flatiron School called Learn.co. Thankfully I was well within its curriculum too, by time my full-time job laid me off!
I was part of the first cohort which made me nervous for several reasons. Yes, there were some growing pains at times, but our feedback was always encouaged to help improve the program and its curriculum. Additionally, as a student who was recently laid off, the "pay as you go" plan made me quite nervous as well; it was hard to tell how soon I'd finish and I didn't want to rush it either. However, I received so much support from my cohort (some who I've met in person and now consider to be friends), and from the staff like Avi, Jonas, Annette, the career team and more, during the program AND afterwards too! These are great people who genuinely want you to succeed! I am SO grateful for it all!
I could literally sit here and write a novel about my experience, but I'll cut to the chase. Yes I would recommend this program to a friend, BUT my friend would need to know that online learning requires A LOT of discipline. I 100% believe that you get what you put into it, or anything really. And Yes, I am now working as a Software Engineer within 6 months of graduating as promised, BUT I'm also very active within my local tech community and was able to take advantage of the network I've built over the year.
Sometimes I still check back in my account and see that even more curriculum has been added since graduating, including Java! It's great to see that the program is still improving, and that I still have access to the additional content.
- Tucker • Web Developer • Graduate • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
I recently graduated from Flatiron School's online program Learn.co and will be starting my new career as a web developer tomorrow.
I spent a lot of time researching different learning options after completing treehouse, and codecademy when I came across Learn. I immediately started the free trial and fell in love. I loved that I could go at my own pace and learn at any hour of the day. I was working full time as an accountant and didn't want to quit and relocate to attend a traditional bootcamp. Learn worked perfectly for me but it may not be for you if you are not self motivated, or need to be in person with the instructors. Flatiron is continuing to innovate new ways to help students stay connected with not only the instructors but the amazing flatiron community. If you ever were stuck on something you could get help from an instructor through the ask a question feature most hours of the day. However, I didn't have to rely solely on instructors for help because my fellow classmates were awesome. I could really say so many great things about the Learn program but it really comes down to the amazing people of the Flatiron School and the other students who love learning to code just as much as you do. Learn is becoming more and more amazing every day as the team is constantly adding new features like study groups, blogging, and integrated chat features.
Warning don't expect to just pay the tuition, cruise through the curriculum in a few weeks, and walk away with a six-figure job offer. Learning to code is hard, and takes a lot of time and effort. Learn does a great job of providing excellent cirriculum and support to help you learn but in the end it comes down to you putting in the work each and every day until you are prepared for a career in development. That being said if you put in the time and are passionate about learning you will learn how to code and you will get a job. Sacrafices will be required but if learning to code is really what you want to do Learn is the way I would reccomemend learning.
If you don't know if coding is for you, I would reccomend trying the free trial at Learn.co and by the end you will know. Best of luck to all of you.
- Anonymous • Wordpress Website Designer • Student • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
Thankfully I read the Terms and Conditions. Anyone can cancel within 14 days of their first payment for a full refund.
I did Learn.co Online for the free 2 weeks, enjoyed it, got some help when I got stuck, then paid $1000/month ($750 with the discount) for the "real course".
I am an experienced online learner. I am an experienced yet still beginner programmer.
Learn.co explained to me that they "do not spoon feed their programmers", yet if I was a beginner, with zero experience, you need to spoon feed me until I can figure out the rest! They expect you to know what answer theyre looking for, without giving enough content to ever get there!
The course expects you to know things that are never taught. Even as someone who has taken classes, I got stuck regularly because the directions were not clear, the answer was hard to achieve given the content provided, and worst of all....
When you get stuck, there is a chat to the right, yet expect to wait 10-30 mins or sometimes a full day for any response! And that response will be garbage 75% of the time. Often I get one response, Hey, how can I help? Then I explain, then I wait 20 minutes for a response! What else are these chat support doing? Checking their email between each response they send?? SO frustrating.
I would ask a question, and only one time out of the umpteen times I asked questions did I get a professional, helpful, well explained answer. The people answering q's are grad of Flatiron School, the same crappy curriculum, and so they too, are crappy teachers. Which only allowed Learn.co students like myself, to learn crappy programming.
What a waste of time which is a waste of money. This is why I chose to go forward with the much better acclaimed Udacity Nanodegree Full Stack Web Development which also has a job/money back guarantee, and is $300/month. Why spend $1000 and get terrible content, support, and skills, when you can spend $300/month, and get great contant, support, and skills. and a job!
Learn.co is a waste of time. They probably want you to waste time, because hey, the more time it takes you to finish the course, the more you wait for Learn.co support when you are stuck, the longer it will take you to finish the course and the more months of payment you will incur.
Do yourself a favor. Quit now. Stop wasting time waiting for support and money that is better spent elsewhere.
- Falsified Job Placement Reporting, Disorganized Curriculum, all for the low, low price of $15,000- 3/29/2016Anonymous • Graduate
Are you seeking a career change? Have you been lured by promises of better compensation and opportunity? Don't be fooled by individuals from the placement-team who will tout falsified job placement percentages as evidence of better professional outcomes. The entire team at Flatiron School, from executive and management to placements and instructors, have absolutely no idea what's going on, and as long as they're getting your money by selling you on the hope of a new career, they don't care.
My experience with this bootcamp can be summed up as follows:
Attending Flatiron School was the single most disastrous professional and financial decision I've ever made.
For months prior to making the decision to attend a bootcamp, I spent time doing my due diligence and actually spoke with grads and the placements team before applying, and I was assured that job prospects were "good" and that "industry relationships" were abundant. This was the sole reason I was willing to pay an exorbitant fee for a skill I could have learned from books and videos online, however by all appearances myself and my entire class have been misled.
After an interval greater than most individual's job search, Flatiron's placement numbers have been inflated by hiring individuals from my class as instructors but other individuals in my class have received very little in the way of placement assistance.
Pros & Cons
1. Free coffee
2. Better Teaching of Standards of Practice/Third Party Libraries
3. "Cool" people (that is, until you start asking for help)
4. Happy hours/feelings sessions
5. If you're really lucky (or a sycophant) you might get a job as an instructor after graduating
1. We're provided with "interviews" during our second to last week for positions that don't actually exist at the companies that come in.
2. There is no proportionate representation of candidates in the placements process. Some of my classmates had received 4-5 interviews while others received none within months of "graduating."
3. We're told to accept whatever positions are available regardless of compensation, benefits, or opportunity for advancement.
4. Curriculum is disorganized: Many lessons depended on understanding principles or concepts that would only be taught later.
5. Instructors available for help are composed of the last cohort's lucky chosen placement rate inflaters and don't have any actual professional experience.
Remember, for every good review you see on here, there is a bias because students are threatened with retribution for criticism or bad reviews. For every bad review you see on here, there are probably a dozen other students who feel similarly but are unable to say so because they're desperate for any help after spending 3 months and 15k on a program.
Personally, I've been struggling for more than a reasonable interval to find consistent, well-paying work. The time and finacial investment required and subsequent failure to find work ended a long term relationship. Maintaining a flexible schedule for interviews that never seem to happen means I can't find consistent, steady-paying work in other fields.
My advice to those of you who are considering a switch to a programming vocation: buy some books (Big Nerd Ranch et al.), watch videos (UDEMY, TeamTreeHouse, etc), and develop your own projects instead of making the mistake I made by trusting the paid representatives of a bootcamp.
- The Real Deal- 3/21/2016Jake • Student • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
For perspective, began in November 2015 and am now nearly finished with the curriculum.
I have thoroughly enjoyed my experience with the Flatiron School's Learn Verified Program. The platform of learn.co itself is great. From day one, everything you are doing with your time is real, actual work. You always work in a real dev environment, and push all your code to Github. I view this as a mandatory feature for any program that claims to prepare you for a job though.
I could rave about how the course material was a good mix of clear, concise, and fun, or how the specific technologies covered are relevant for today's market. However, what I believe to be one of the strongest features to Flatiron is the overarching sequence and manner in which they guide you through learning programming skills. This is hard to explain if you don't have much coding experience. The Flatiron curriculum is very thoughtfully crafted in a way which has you cementing together fundamental blocks of your knowledge that you only realize after you have already built them. More succinctly, it's wax on, wax off. More concretely I mean that they have you manually build out various technologies in detail by hand, before introducing you to an existing technology or framework (dynamic ORM before ActiveRecord, Sinatra before Rails, etc). Going about it in this manner really ensures that their students will have a firm understanding of what these technologies do and why they do it. I am much more interested in gaining a thorough understanding of how to use a framework well than simply being able to crank out apps and material without that underlying basis. More complete understanding is better for you in the long run.
I have found that help has been quickly within reach anytime it was truly needed. The staff has been extremely responsive, and genuinely make every possible effort to give their students anything that will help them succeed. The live assessments are very valuable as well. Every time I have learned an extreme amount of information very quickly. You are given perspective not only on the work that you have done, but for overall project design decisions, code patterns, and often pushed to expand your work in ways that you'd never have thought to.
Now nearing the end of the coursework, I am feeling very confident in my ability to build increasingly powerful and complex applications. It's important to remember that a bootcamp is just a beginning. If you are genuinely changing careers into software development as I am, the learning does not stop after any bootcamp. There is a limit to the amount of material that you will learn in any bootcamp, but I don't think there's anything I feel was lacking from Flatiron. I am highly confident in my ability to find work upon graduation, and will hopefully update with results in the near future.
- Zero Code Review!- 3/16/2016Anonymous • Graduate
- Zero Code Review!- 3/16/2016Anonymous • Graduate • Course: iOS Development Immersive • Campus: New York City
This is an honest and sincere review with the only intention to inform others about a very real experience.
I had zero code review. ZERO. I asked for it many times, never got it.
My classmates were either completely drunk or 100% independent didn't-want-to-work-with-anyone types, except for one. I am still friends with the one classmate that wasn't like this.
This place was extremely noisy the entire time, and the teachers regularly would get a TA to take their place when they were too hungover to come in and teach. This happened *many* times.
All of the staff and most of the classmates seemed to care much more about the world sport tournament that was blasted every day on the giant projector screen in the main room (where all of the students had to be all day, every day) than they did about helping their students being able to complete their assignments. I was definitely not the only person that felt this way.
They make incredible claims about job placement. Then, 2 weeks before the end of the program, they pretty much tell you to take whatever job you can get, even if it's free or minimum wage.
Of the 3 leads they gave me, two were 100% non-code related, and the 3rd never got back to me even though they liked me a lot (they realized they needed someone that wasn't a bootcamp grad)
This left me with an extremely bitter taste in my mouth. Their job leads program clearly did not do their due diligence in finding quality leads. I did not approve of Flatiron including me in their "success" category when it came to their job placement rates, yet they hold those numbers close and I have no control over it.
What's worse, is that the final project they gave my group was poorly scoped too. We were not allowed to pick our team-mates or project topic, so the arrogant member of the team kept deleting our code that he didn't like (who does that?!) and when our attempts to remedy the issue failed, the staff wouldn't do anything to mitigate the issue.
If you want to attend any bootcamp, my advice is this:
-Don't believe anything about job placement rates or leads.
-Ask dozens of questions. Take everything with a grain of salt.
-Ask to see the real data on the percent of graduates that are placed in FULL-TIME JOBS WITH BENEFITS within 6 months and what ***THEIR*** starting pay was.
-Be overly-prepared for the beginning of the program. Most claim you don't need to know any code at all, but really you should. You'll suffer if you don't. Start teaching yourself. Start with Codecademy, then graduate to CodeSchool, Pluralsight, Treehouse, Udacity, and/Or something else that is free/cheap. Once you've exhausted those resources, then consider a bootcamp if you are still interested.
-Attend a bootcamp *only* in the city where you will stay and seek employment
-You only should attend a bootcamp if you're way too lazy to teach yourself using free tools online. Most people are. However, you should at least try this path first.
If you venture down this path, expecting a bootcamp to teach you a little bit about a lot of things in a very short amount of time, and do absolutely nothing else for you, then you'll be happy with your experience. If you expect a bootcamp to give you extensive code review (absolutely necessary to hone your skillset), find you a good job with good pay and help you have something incredible in your portfolio to show to prospective employers, you might be terribly disappointed. I was.
Again, I wrote this to provide an honest review explaining my personal experience. I learned a lot, but I didn't get half as much out of the program as I could have if they cared about my concerns listed above. This was a couple years ago now, maybe they've improved? They probably have. I can't imagine I'm the only one that had an experience like this.
Reader should keep in mind that most graduates don't want to leave negative reviews about the bootcamp they attended because they are still relying on the bootcamp to help them find employment. It's twisted. You can't find much credible negative information online regarding bootcamps.
Find a few graduates of *the* program you're considering taking at the bootcamp you want to attend, email them or find them on LinkedIn, and ask them lots of questions. This is how you will get an honest review.
Note: I intentionally altered the month/year that I graduated from the program because I'd rather not have this come back to bite me because my classmate was scolded by a staff member for his review on a different platform.
- A good alternative to people with IT background- 3/12/2016Lyn D • Student • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
This was originally posted in my blog.
I began searching for online coding bootcamps recently, a good alternative to going to a major city to attend a coding bootcamp in person. Not everyone is like me who has family in a major city, in my case NYC. Rent alone can drain a person’s bank account, much more if that person needs to quit his or her job to attend an intensive school 60 hours a week, which is the norm for bootcamps.
Who should attend this program?
Online coding bootcamps with live mentors are great for people who have a strong technology background, but lacks programming skills. For example, I don’t get confused with programming concepts because of my years of Intro to Programming back in CS school, but have problems learning and applying codes in real world. I don’t feel isolated because I’m confident the mentor will be there to help me out, but at the same time I don’t have to revisit topics that I am otherwise familiar with.
Flatiron School has solid reputation
Flatiron School in NYC recently released their online version of their program, which has traditionally been in-person classes. I signed up yesterday, and so far so good. I love the interface, which is very important to have a good learning experience.
Hit the ground running? Not really.
One thing I do recommend is if you’ll be doing this full-time like 40 hours a week, you should definitely buy a second or/and third monitor. The screen on your laptop will not be enough. There are so many windows that you need to keep open to make sure that they lesson is seamless.
I’ll continue providing feedbacks of Flatiron School’s Learn Online Bootcamp throughout the upcoming weeks.
- An Excellent Tour Guide For A New Future- 3/2/2016Luke • Future Web Developer • Student • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
I spent about 2 months teaching myself web development before I started with Flatiron's Online Learn Verified program. I looked at every online coding bootcamp possible, and just as I was about to go with a different program I stumbled upon Learn Verified. So I clicked on the link and started their free intro to ruby course. Needless to say 4 months later and I am about to finish the course.
This has been one of the best exeperiences of my life. I have learned so much from Learn Verified and I have so much left to learn. They teachers have been excellent. The dean of the school will personally checkup on you to see if you need help. If you place yourself into this program with a will to succeed, then Learn Verified will give you the tolls and the mentorship you need to start a future career in web development.
- Highly recommend- 2/29/2016Lisa • Student • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
Over the last several years, I have worked with multiple online programs. In each case, I have found myself frustrated for one reason or another. My experience with Learn Verified has been a welcomed change. The curriculum is clear and concise, while still presenting a challenge. The lab work provides a valuable platform to practice what you have learned. The entire program is well scaffolded, delivering lessons step-by-step, culminating in projects that demonstrate the bigger picture of how all the pieces fit together. The curriculum is open-source, so it is constantly being improved by students with the approval of instructors. The program has a valuable feature where you can ask questions and get answers from other students and instructors in a real-time chat session. The process of talking through a problem with another student or instructor as it comes up is a tremendous improvement from the message board approach I have seen in other programs. The feedback at Learn comes live, and prevents the types of roadblocks that lead to frustration and disinterest. One of the co-founders of the school is incredibly involved in the program. He typically gives three live lectures per week based on topics the students have requested. He’s active in the Slack channel and is constantly offering to help students with whatever they need to succeed. Even though this is a remote program, you really get the feeling that you are part of a community of students eager to help each other get through any roadblocks they encounter. I had considered attending an in-person bootcamp, but the flexibility afforded by Learn lets me move at my own pace. This lets me re-visit topics that I need to spend more time on. This would not be possible if I was attending an in-person bootcamp. I can efficiently breeze through topics that are more intuitive to me, while spending more time on ones that are more challenging. You still get the same material that students in the in-person Flatiron bootcamp get, but you can navigate at your own pace. Most importantly, I have learned more in the past few months with Learn than I learned in two years of self study. This program has focused me on the right topics to study, and the right order to study them. Finding individual free resources is easy, but figuring out how to combine them into a worthwhile lesson plan is nearly impossible. This program sets you up with exactly what you need to learn, providing a great foundation of knowledge that is setting me up to code in the real world.
- A Great Fit for Me - Your Mileage May Vary- 2/24/2016Tracy • Student • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
Saw these reviews and thought I'd share as well. I've been in LV for about 4 months, so I feel like I can accurately speak to the program's strengths and weaknesses.
I found out about Learn while I was interviewing with in-person bootcamps in San Francisco. I definitely had a negative bias toward online bootcamps (Bloc and Thinkful in particular), but the Learn platform really impressed me. It was incredibly addictive working through the lessons. The curriculum is a treat- it's timely and funny stuff (Grumpy Cat, Kanye, etc.). I also felt better about the program because they make you complete a ~30 hr Intro to Ruby course before you can even apply. And it's hard. That's a good sign.
Beyond that, the burgeoning community atmosphere online is really nice. It's positive, encouraging and inclusive. People are really trying to help each other succeed.
Oh, also - in general, an online bootcamp fits my learning style better. I can speed through things I already know, like SQL, and spend more time really digging into trouble spots. There are multiple weekly live lectures that you can drop into if you need a review.
Of course, there are the usual problems that one might associate with learning online. This program might not work for you if you aren't good at pacing yourself. Also, the program's hours revolve around the east coast, so if you're on the west coast like I am, you may be out of luck if the “Learn experts” aka TAs have gone for the night. Oh also - Avi is awesome, but the TAs vary in their helpfulness/knowledge level.
Another issue some might have a problem with is the fact that this program is still so new. There are typos, there are bugs. Sometimes the TAs become overwhelmed with questions so responses take a while. If you don't have a Mac, working through this program may be technically annoying. It’s been an issue for me so much so that I’m considering biting the bullet and switching over as soon as the new Macbook Pro comes out. However, I feel like the LV team has been honest and responsive about these issues so I cut them some slack.
Overall, I'm really happy with my choice to go with this program. It works for me.
- Excellent program.- 2/24/2016Liz Denhup • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
I enrolled in the online version of the Flatiron School three months ago as I was looking to transition into a career in full-stack web development. I am currently in the program. In the past three months I have gained a ton of proficiency in programming, and I feel that I am being well-prepared for the job market. The instructors are really helpful, and the people at the Flatiron School do a great job of making the experience immersive. The Flatiron School's online bootcamp is also one of the only bootcamps which offers job placement assistance, which was a big factor in my decision to choose Learn over other bootcamps. I will update this review after I graduate to reflect my experience with placement services. Overall, I think Learn is a great value and that I have learned a lot from the program.
- Awesome- 2/23/2016Marsi M. • Student • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
Started the Learn Verified program in November with absolutely no coding experience. I like that you can try the free Intro to Ruby course before applying to get an idea of how the program works. It is a very comprehensive curriculum with descriptive lessons and challenging projects and labs.
Since I haven't completed the program yet, I can't speak for the job assistance aspect; however, their jobs report is available to view. From the looks of it, it's very encouraging.
The staff is top notch and available to answer questions and help at any time of the day. You can tell they really care about each and every one of us. What is really awesome is that Avi is so accessible and can break down the most complicated concepts into easy-to-understand pieces. Even though he's the Dean, he takes the time to explain and help us, and it makes you feel like you matter. It's like getting on-the-job training from the CEO.
I love the community and feeling of connection as we all share code and vent our frustrations and cheer each other on from all over the world. I couldn't have asked for a better experience. Flatiron School rocks!
- Student- 2/23/2016Roberto • Student • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
Note: I am a current student and have not graduated yet. If track record is anything to go by, alumni validation, and judging by my experience so far, I vote 5 stars for job assistance. I will edit by June 2016 if I find otherwise.
For me, choosing a program to get into web dev came down to these factors: credibility, quality, cost. Here is what I found.
The first factor was easy to tackle. If you go to learn.co you can read the jobs report. It’s an independently audited report that contains job placement (99%) and average salary for graduates. I called-up a friend of mine who is an alumni of one of their in-person programs to get more info. She vouched, and gave a great review.
Now take it from me. This is a great program.
One of my former colleagues joined another popular program (without me knowing, or I would have persuaded her otherwise) and is now hoping that she can find a job. I, however know that the school’s reputation is on the line over me. They very publicly advertise their audited placement rates.
The curriculum is based on the in-person program. So, not only are the instructors good at coding, the actual material has has proven itself several times (results seen in jobs report). Not just that, but there is material that is not included in the in-person program. You are simply exposed to more content, and one could argue that this will make you a stronger job candidate.
What’s more, I encourage you to actually do the free coursework. It will only cost a little of your time, but you can see what the program is all about and why students are so addicted. Yes, I said addicted.
A note here on quality. The Flatiron School selects students in what I consider a unique fashion. There are people in the program who have tech backgrounds, have worked with big data, or majored in math, and there are artists, writers, comedians, etc. I say this because the curriculum is extremely accessible. Everyone can get through it, and everyone becomes stronger from it. This is largely due to the content and the format, but also due to the community. At the end of the day, despite their different backgrounds, everyone I have come into contact with loves the program.
You go at your own pace. If you finish in 4 months, good for you. If you finish in 8, fantastic. For the most part people don’t pull out their rulers and start comparing. And why should you? However everyone’s budget is always at the back of their mind.
The team recently launched a second version for $500 instead of $1000 per month. The $500 version is just the Premium version with some support services stripped away. I am glad to be in the Premium version because it suites my needs, and I budgeted for it. However, the basic version students are by no means treated any differently in the community. Honestly most of us don’t know (or care) who is in which plan.
Added bonus: Community
This is a big one. Communities are not perfect. Anywhere. But having been on several on-line learning platforms before, and having worked in education, I can say that the community that is cultured here is very supportive and open. Whether you are outgoing or reserved, you can find a place here. There are virtually no rules to follow though. It just seems to be a product of the people who are admitted, and of course the tone set by the community leaders.
- Best Decision Ever- 2/23/2016Ashley M. • Student • Course: Online Software Engineering Immersive • Campus: Online
Before coming to Flatiron I had spent 4 years in college to get a degree in Game Design from a school with a less than reputable reputation. After achieving the degree, I was left with no actual programming skills, no job, a ton of debt and no will to get out of bed in the morning. After moping around for a while I stumbled across Flatiron schools learn verified program and it has completely transformed my life. I have gone from knowing the bare bone basics of programming, to being able to develop complex applications and soon I will be ready to start looking into the working world and turn my life around.
The coursework has proved to be challenging but not overly so. It is well written and easily accessible to those who have no background in coding in the beginning. It slowly builds up and things do become more abstract and difficult as time goes on, but still nothing that we can’t handle. The “ask a question” feature is very useful. During typical east coast working hours experts can answer within seconds to help you with your program. Students may also help other students if no experts are available.
The community is real tight knit. We all do the best we can to help each other, after all we are in this together. Every thursday we have something called “Thoughtful Thursday” where we express our feelings as a group. It is really helpful to hear that others are struggling the same as you. Or that someone finally got over that hump and is doing well this week. When someone is really struggling with a program, students also tend to collaborate together using screen sharing as well.
As of right now the Learn program is still very new and ever evolving. The developers and staff are always asking for our feedback and opinions and integrating it within the platform which is a huge plus.
Avi, who is the Dean of Flatiron School will often make time to assist students whenever they need help or offer words of encouragement. His lectures are a huge help to the lessons that are difficult and unlike many other professors there are no stupid questions for Avi. Each question is treated with the same respect and answered thoroughly. During assessments (which we get after every major section) he will often provide positive feedback on what we could do to improve our code and ourselves. He is always very warm and will never yell or belittle you. He really wants to make sure you succeed.
- iOS Immersive AKA Awesomeness- 2/12/2016Anonymous • iOS Engineer • Graduate • Course: iOS Development Immersive • Campus: New York City
Around March of 2015, I was unemployed and lacking any semblance of direction in my life. A friend (an Alum of the Flatiron School) recommended the program and seeing as I had nothing else going on - decided to take the leap for the sake of change.
Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that I would be taking the first step towards a career where I genuinely love the work that I do and the people that I work with.
From the first day, you will truly understand the word "Immersive." Laying out the foundations of their guiding principles, they set their students up not just as wonderful developers, but people. Nearly every student came from a different background and one of the fundamental principles was the idea of always supporting each other.
The instructors and staff at the Flatiron School do an exceptional job at fostering a true sense of community at the program - and it was so easy to get wrapped up in the culture that you'd find yourself just hanging out sometimes (without coding!). From class outings and workshops - it was never just about the code (and that was 100% intentional).
Post-graduation, there are tons of resources available when you go job-hunting and the staff are always just a Slack message away! Any issues or concerns, no matter how small are overlooked by the staff who are truly there to help - they want you to succeed, and it shows.
If you're expecting to come out as a top-rate professional developer, make no mistake - it's possible, but not likely. BUT, trust me when I say this, you will come out armed with the knowledge to create amazing things and if you take nothing else away from this review - the Flatiron School teaches you how to learn.
I'm currently an iOS Engineer based at a development shop in Brooklyn, and I wake up every morning excited to go to work. Think about that.
- Absolutely amazing- 11/9/2015Anonymous • Graduate • Course: Immersive Software Engineering Bootcamp • Campus: New York City
Perfect in every possible sense. How could I not say it was the best decision of my life considering I completely changed industries and was placed into a higher payng job that I love? If you can get in, you'd be nuts to attend any other coding school. Period.
- :)- 11/8/2015Anonymous • Software Engineer • Graduate • Campus: New York City
- Best decision I ever made- 11/6/2015Anonymous • Developer • Graduate • Course: Immersive Software Engineering Bootcamp • Campus: New York City
I made the leap and quit my job a little over 2 years ago so that I could attend Flatiron School, and it was the best decision I ever made. The instruction was amazing, and the sense of community that was foastered among students created the most incredible learning environment I've ever been a part of. I was placed in a job almost immediately after graduation, and have loved my work ever since.
- Web Immersive Review- 11/5/2015Anonymous • Junior Developer • Graduate • Course: Immersive Software Engineering Bootcamp • Campus: New York City
I was part of the on campus web development immersive this year and my life has trasformed in ways I could not have imagined. Here's my review broken down into different aspects that you may be interested in:
Content delivery/organization: Obviously I haven't gone to any other bootcamps, so I don't know how they deliver their content, but at Flatiron School, we used a system called Learn that had our daily schedules each morning, our assignments and "readmes" that explained the concepts we were going to cover, and any announcements from our instructors. The tool has all of our labs organized by topic and you can also see who else is working on it so you can group up and code together. It also has a built in chat system so you can ask for help from instructors or other students! Outside fo the tool, we had lecture and lab reviews everyday up until project mode. Those were pretty helpful to ask as many questions as you needed until you understood the lab.
Community/student support and growth: One of the reasons why I chose the Flatiron School over other schools is because of the student support and community involvement. And I must say, they definitely delivered! For community involvement, Flatiron hosts a meetup every Tuesday where students present a project of their choosing. It's required to do this if you enroll, but it really expands your ability to talk about technical stuff in a concise way. At the meetup, current and aspiring developers show up so there's time to talk to them before or after the presentations. There are also a lot of guest speakers that come in and talk about their experiences as a developer, CTO, product manager, etc. Another awesome part about Flatiron School is that they provide tutoring and mentorship for students that need/want it. Unlike some of the other schools, Flatiron won't just kick you out because you don't understand something. They'll help you out and make sure you get the support you need. The only reason why a student might be kicked out is if they do something really stupid like steal monitors or punch another student in the face.
Job Assistance: I think this is one of the biggest questions for most applicants coming into the program. How long will it take for me to get a job? What's the most effective way? Who's gonna help me out? All these are legit questions. What I will tell you is that you're in great hands. During the semester, you build at least three projects to have in your portfolio (1 from the Flatiron Presents project, and 2 project mode projects) and they are all on topics that you want to focus on. There's also a dedicated Placements team that helps you in numerous ways ranging from resume reviews, mock interviews, or how to interact with potential employers. There's also a speed-interview session during the last week of the semester so you get to interact with people that are looking to hire developers. I could probably keep going on about the placements assistance, but you can see how great of a job they do by looking at their jobs report on their website.
In summary, Flatiron School is filled with people that truly care about your well-being and are interested in your success to switch your career from whatever you were doing to a developer. I highly recommend Flatiron School and hope that you have a great of an experience as I had.
- Amazing program- 6/16/2015Anonymous • Graduate • Course: Immersive Software Engineering Bootcamp • Campus: New York City
The best thing about FIS is the quality of teaching. This comes from both the instructors who are very helpful as well as your peers. They do a great job of selecting the students and forming well-balanced classes. I learned a ton from them.
Other great things are:
-Teaching you programming concepts that are transferrable to any language. We learned Ruby but you can take the methodologies they teach you and apply it to any programming language.
-The placements team is awesome. They do a great job prepping you for interviews and connecting you with lots of job opportunities.
I would highly recommend this program to anyone who is serious about becoming a web developer.
* These outcomes are not audited by Course Report. In some cases, data is audited by a third party.
Flatiron School has an acceptance rate of 8%, of which 85% of accepted students enroll in a course. Of the students who enroll at Flatiron School, 99% graduate. 95% are hired in technical roles within 120 days and report an average income of $74,447.
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After 120 days
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